Most illegals in Mississippi ICE raids stole Americans' identities

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  1. lpast

    lpast Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most of the 680 illegal immigrants nabbed in August’s immigration raids at poultry plants in Mississippi worked under stolen American identities, the Department of Homeland Security’s top investigator told Congress Thursday, rebuffing Democrats who insisted the “undocumented” workers were doing no harm.


    “They stole the IDs of 400 U.S. citizens,” said Jere Miles, who leads Homeland Security Investigations’ New Orleans office. “Where’s their voice?”

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/7/mississippi-ice-raids-most-illegal-immigrants-stol/
     
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    this is a surprise?
     
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    But we should punish the employers!
     
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    There is a whole industry supplying fake ID's to illegal immigrants. If you reduce the number of illegal immigrants entering, the stolen fake ID industry will collapse increasing unemployment for these fake ID creators.
    American citizens will lose income, a large portion of the American public does not want this.
     
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    I'm sure lots of them vote using those stolen IDs.
     
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    Democrats also lie and say that no illegal foreign nationals use stolen IDs to vote. Just to get jobs and pay taxes.

    Democrats also believe that nobody crosses the border illegally in the desert, especially bad people.

    Don't be Democrats people...
     
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    Put 'em on trial.
     
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    Democrats literally say that foreign nationals paying taxes with stolen IDs is how they will pay for providing any foreign national that makes it to America with healthcare and welfare paid for by Americans.

    Democrats plans rely on fraud. I know... SHOCKER...
     
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    Of course you should. If employers stopped hiring people who are here illegally, there won't be people coming here illegally.
     
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    They pay only a fraction of what the cost our society in health care, education, law enforcement and welfare.
     
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    Democrats say that their fraud helps. They justify Identity theft and tax fraud.

    Not all Democrats are criminals, but most criminals are Democrats. This is also why Democrats want felons to vote so badly.
     
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    And employers are supposed to know people are illegal when using fake IDs for employment... how?
     
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    By actually lifting a finger to check identities. Companies don't care if they hire illegals, and the government doesn't care if companies hire illegals. The President has hired undocumented workers and no one cares.
     
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    Not to mention they don't point out that they receive $5 in refunds for every $1 contributed.
     
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    Sounds like your agenda is clouding your rationality.

    How exactly, is an employer supposed to know that somebody is illegal when they have stolen somebody else's identity?
     
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    That's illegal.
     
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    Particularly when the law does not allow them to inquire as to the legality of their presence in the country.
     
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    ID theft is no small matter. My wifes was stolen or compromised by someone with a Hispanic name from a whole other region of the country. It took her two years of fear and stress to get it straightened out, and interfered with refinancing, renewing her drivers license, applying for FEMA funds after a hurricane, and claiming her retirement funds from AAA. It was pretty bad.
     
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    I'm wondering that too.

    with that said, they aren't stupid, the employer(s) know exactly what illegals might be capable of when filling out their paperwork.

    especially if it's a majority of the employees you have, duh... but you can claim ignorance pretty easily right? "I'm not an expert on legal identification, I just collect the info"

    For example I've had 10 employees hired and fired over the last 30 years in my business, I have absolutely no way to know if they were legal or not I just assumed they were.

    they had a drivers lisc and a ss# I file the utc6 with that info.

    Why can't the government just cross-reference those Social Security numbers and determine that juan Velasquez doesn't have five jobs in five states, at least 4 are fakes, right?

    is that so complicated?
     
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    And how do employers know who is and isn't here illegally? They have valid (stolen) American IDs.
     
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    I assume there are valid green card id's galore as well. I just skimmed through the article so I'm making an assumption here.

    edit:

    Another thought is I'm confused by the IRS wouldn't have red-flagged these identities a long time ago. If Juan Valdez has five jobs in five cities and made 208,000 last year but only filed one tax return for 42k, doesn't that trigger something? would an illegal file a tax return using the same social security number that they know other people (even 1) might be filing under??? another red flag

    It just seems to me that identity fraud would be most best served anonymously not by a person that shows up every day to a workplace in other words if he's caught he's handcuffed. Which is exactly what happened
     
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    Not only that but with all the tax credits some get back more than they pay in, yet still cost us big time in health, education, welfare and law enforcement.
     
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    So they flock to sanctuary cities for the free healthcare and schooling?
     
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    National e-verify or ID with biometric (best) or photographic database.
    Could also be used to verify state or federal aid and as a voter ID system.
     
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    You believe that Trump personally hires every person who works at his properties and businesses? He might hire people who hire people who hire people who hire the people to do that. sheesh
     
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