High school principal fired after denying Holocaust was ‘factual’ event

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  1. Gdawg007

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    tell me about it. I have to be very PC and tolerate all sorts of distortions of reality, things like Obamacare = socialism and nonsense like that. Oh, not what you meant? Sorry...

    Denying something in the presence of evidence is a big problem. We should all be data driven individuals given we have a smart phone in our pocket that is basically an extra brain to help avoid using what we "believe" or "feel" to make decisions.
     
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    The fact that some people don't believe it happened is a fact, but if you simply state that fact without any conclusion, what conclusion are you looking to elicit? Because despite the fact that some people believe it didn't happen, we have evidence that it did happen. That evidence overrides belief. So if you simply state the fact that some people don't believe it happened then that alone is an incomplete picture that allows for the illogical conclusion that perhaps it didn't happen.
     
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    What evidence would that be?
     
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    Seeing as he is one of the people you are bashing . . .

    Sorry, it doesn't really matter how many quotes you mine, Holocaust denial is still scraping the bottom of the barrel.

    I'm sorry if you've been duped by it. No, it really isn't any better than flat earth theory, etc.

    And I say that as someone who had family in Nazi prison camps.
     
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    Here is a fitting video that explains the impossibility of the claimed official holocaust story:

    "The Holocaust Hoax Exposed"
    debunking the 20th Century's greatest Fabrication.

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=4ff_1500596468

    The author of the book, Victor Thorn, died of a gunshot wound on August 1st, 2016, which some sources say was not suicide but the work of either Hillary Clinton or Mossad.
    Another mystery!!
     
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    Did your family member(s) survive? Which camp were they in? If they lived to tell about it, what did they say life was like in there, and did they see any gassing going on? Please, tell us what you know from them.
     
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    Where have I been "bashing" Winston Churchill and what does that have to do with the veracity of the fact that the victors do write the history?

    You claim that I have been "duped" by holocaust denial but can find no place where I have denied that the holocaust happened.

    I do believe that it happened but like most people around the world, I do not believe the inflated casualty numbers or many of the grisly fantasies that comprise the standard holocaust narrative.

    Why should anyone believe the same people who have engaged in so many deliberate deceptions about fake "human skin lampshades", "human fat soap", shrunken heads, homicidal steam chambers, electrified conveyor belts(1), "recently invented human vaporizers" and other outright lies.




    (1) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
    https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

    EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED
     
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    I'm not quite clear what your point is. Please clarify.

    "Holocaust Denial" is a fatuous and misleading term not for people who do not believe that the holocaust "happened" but also for those who do not believe the entire fraudulent, standard holocaust narrative about 6 million Jews executed, homicidal gas and steam chambers and even more outrageous fictions I listed in my previous Post #132
     
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    Re:
    Please clarify.
    About what have I been duped?
     
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    If you believe strongly that people who were not there could be duped by photos, you must also admit that it is possible for you to be the one who was duped by photos. You weren't there. I could not be more clear. Now you are trying to dupe me by replying to an edited version of my post. Typical tactic used by those trying to obscure the truth. Try replying to what I actually said.
     
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    Now, you're accusing me of being dishonest, a common tactic of those unwilling to face facts.
    If you had bothered to look at the sources I provided you would see that it is irrefutable that many holocaust photos have been altered, deliberately mislabeled or are complete frauds with the deliberate intent to deceive people unwilling to think for themselves.
    For example, it is an irrefutable fact that the Simon Weisenthal Center got caught deliberately adding fake smoke to one of its' photos of Auschwitz(2).
    What else in it's collection is deliberately misrepresented?

    Which of the fake photos shown in the sources below do you believe are genuine & what makes you think that they're genuine?



    (1) "Zionists Fake Holocaust Cremation Deaths Using 35 Year-Old Train Wreck Images"
    https://nodisinfo.com/zionists-holocaust-cremation-deaths-ohio-train-wreck-images/


    EXCERPT "So, it is that there is not only no evidence for it, but in fact, there is evidence fully against it, proving it to be a lie. Here is the proof of the fake, the star imagery of the dog and pony show, the supposed open-pit cremation of naked, dead Jews. There were no Jews there. This is a fake. The corpses were put in artificially. The image has nothing to do with the war or post-war period. It’s not even from Germany but rather from the United States"CONTINUED


    (2) "Holocaust Fake pics 1"
    http://lovkap.blogspot.com/2014/09/holocaust-fake-pics-1.html
     
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    You had to fabricate that I called you dishonest to avoid replying to what I actually said. I don't believe you are being dishonest; I am certain that you believe what you are saying 100%. Those who believe the Earth is flat are not being dishonest; They really believe it.

    You admit that photos can be edited to mislead. If you believe your own words, you must also admit that it may be you that was duped. You weren't there.

    Try replying to what I actually said.
     
  13. Jazz

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    Dear Grau, there actually is no reason to argue over photos of dead bodies, the fact is nobody was gassed! Thousands of autopsies showed nobody died of gas in the concentration camps.

    When American and British forces overran western and central Germany in the spring of 1945, they were followed by troops charged with discovering and securing any evidence of German war crimes.

    Among them was Dr. Charles Larson, one of America’s leading forensic pathologists, who was assigned to the US Army’s Judge Advocate General’s Department. As part of a US War Crimes Investigation Team, Dr. Larson performed autopsies at Dachau and some twenty other German camps, examining on some days more than 100 corpses. After his grim work at Dachau, he was questioned for three days by US Army prosecutors. Dr. Larson’s findings? In a 1980 newspaper interview he said: “What we’ve heard is that six million Jews were exterminated. Part of that is a hoax.”
    And what part was the hoax? Dr. Larson, who told his biographer that to his knowledge he “was the only forensic pathologist on duty in the entire European Theatre” of Allied military operations, confirmed that “never was a case of poison gas uncovered.” Typhus, Not Poison Gas.

    Read more about it here:
    https://www.germanvictims.com/2019/...sies-prove-no-one-was-gassed-holocaust-fraud/
     
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    As I understand your original question, you are asking if I could have been duped by the fraudulent photos displayed in the sources I provided.
    Are you suggesting, for example, that the fake smoke deliberately added by the Weisenthal Center in the Auschwitz photo was real and I have been duped by the original?

    Please clarify; by which fraudulent photo have I been duped?

    [​IMG]

    EXCERPT "They didn’t just do this kind of thing for war-time propaganda or for the Nuremberg War Trials, either. The photo on the right was found up on the Simon Weisenthal Center website in 1999. To get American sympathies stoked-up (which is the point), they’ve explained that the smoke in the background is coming from the crematoria at Auschwitz – all the parents and family of the Jews in the foreground going up. But someone located the original on the left, clearly showing a later-day air-brushing job (poorly done, too). So busted!"CONTINUED (1)


    (1) "Holocaust Fake pics 1"
    http://lovkap.blogspot.com/2014/09/holocaust-fake-pics-1.html
     
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    Hello Jazz, yes, I'm familiar with Dr. Larson's findings as well as other revelations that refute the myth of mass gassings in homicidal gas chambers.
    The only "gas chambers" that existed were the smaller, delousing gas chambers used to delouse the clothes, mattresses, blankets etc in an effort to prevent the spread of typhus.

    As you know, the British broke the Enigma code and were able to listen to encrypted German communications but there was never any mention of executing people in homicidal gas chambers:

    "The Enemy Is Listening!"
    https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/8/1/4028

    EXCERPT "Oddly, only a very few Holocaust historians were interested in the information on the concentration camps. The reason for this astonishing lack of interest is presumably due to the following remark by author Hinsley:

    The messages from Auschwitz, the largest camp, with 20,000 inmates, mention disease as the chief cause of death, but also include references to executions by hanging and shooting. The decoded messages contain no references to gassings."
    CONTINUED
     
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    So what you have is a belief combined with an opinion. No different than what you are accusing others of. You weren't there. I am aware that propaganda, Pallywood-type photos are used to gain sympathy and create outrage. The same can be said for the agenda you are pushing regardless of your level of belief.

    I knew people who were actually there.
     
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    No. Try replying to what I said. You have edited my post and misquoted me every time now. My post is not complicated. As much as I would love to go around in this circle again, I have already given you more courtesy and attention than is wise to give conspiracy theorists. Your claim that "they" were duped was also made by the pot to the kettle.
     
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    Of course, I, too, know people who were there... like Eli Wiesel and Ann Frank for instance. Unfortunately, Ann Frank died of tuberculosis while at the camp, and Mr. Wiesel never mentioned any gassings until much later, when the story had been more planned and worked out. That doesn't prove anyone was gassed!
    Yes, I know it has all been said/written before - I just forget! We talked about at length about the holo in the Faurrisson thread.

    At Nuremberg:

    A “Fact Of Common Knowledge” Did Not Require Proof To Execute Germans; Propaganda & Torture Provided The Legal ‘Evidence’

    After 70+ years the Americans are not interested to correct their former verdicts, lest they themselves get exposed as criminals and liars.
     
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    I did not edit any of your Posts nor have I deliberately misquoted you. I was and am trying to clarify your question.
    I am honestly trying to understand specifically what you are asking.

    Additionally, I wouldn't call accusing me of being a "conspiracy theorist" as being especially courteous or accurate as I have supported my assertions with credible sources and specific examples.

    Finally, I lived, worked and studied in Europe during the early / mid 1970s where I came to know at least a dozen people who were in German, WW2 work camps. While they reported cruel inmate Kapos and, near the end of the war, inadequate food, and typhus epidemics, their eyewitness experiences are inconsistent with what has become the Holocaust Industry's standard holocaust narrative.
     
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    You knew Ann Frank?
     
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    Yes, I read her bio.
     
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    You are incorrect. You took my post:



    And snipped it down to”



    Then you replied to your own edited version of my post.


    You then falsely posted:
    When I made no such accusation. Those who believe they will be rewarded with 72 virginians are not being dishonest; they really believe that crap. Im sure your level of belief is just as strong. All I said was that if you feel strongly that people can be duped by photos, you must admit that it is possible that you are the one being duped. It is also possible that you are being dishonest, but I would never make such an accusation without knowing for sure.

    You will just have to accept that I knew who were there and they were far more credible than some stranger on a forum. You may now resume calling the kettle black.
     
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    So in your world, reading someones bio is the same as knowing them?
     
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    $50 says this Principal posted anti-Jewish posts on FB, Twitter, etc.

    FACT: 99.99% of the time folks who deny the Holocaust also hate Jews.

    its like clockwork. Every....****ing...time.
     
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    Okay it looks like this Principal is actually not a holocaust denier. he has had several events honoring and inviting Holocaust survivors to discuss their experiences. He has posted statements on Twitter honoring the memory of the Holocaust

    However he may be a moron, as it seems he wants to give the same weight to Holocaust deniers as we give to those who survived and witnessed the tragedy.

    It's a shame that such people exist in our world.

    imagine if we gave the same weight to people who deny the Earth is round or who deny Earth revolves around the sun or who deny that we sent astronauts to the Moon.

    there are factual truths and then there are idiotic beliefs that deserve very little regard in academia

    This principal seems to not be able to know the difference
     

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