Does this sound insane to you?

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  1. Moonglow

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    Is that your final assessment or is their another dossier?
    Yet, Russia claimed it was not at war with Ukraine.
     
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    Yes, Obama likes golden showers...
     
  3. Moonglow

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    Once you hit fifty you are used to getting sprayed when they cough...
     
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    Except that never happened. They didn't provide lethal weapons, but they did provide medical supplies, armored vehicles, and other means of aid to the Ukrainian military

    That was never a part of the Burisma investigation. Also, as I already stated the president did not mention the Burisma company, he specifically requested that they open an investigation into the Biden family.

    As I was saying, Hunter Biden was never suspect in the Burisma investigation. The Burisma company has in fact been investigated 15 times by the Ukrainian government, and in none of these investigations has Hunter Biden been suspect. The president however specifically requested that Ukraine investigate the Biden family, and more than this, he was withholding military aid against the Pentagon's advice, and he was making this request without the Justice Department's knowledge. It was a unilateral request from the president, and it was directed towards a political opponent specifically


    An investigation into the Burisma company was never the legal issue, there have in fact been 15 total investigations into the Burisma company from the Ukrainian government alone, the company was being accused of subsidiaries of conspiracy and tax evasion, Hunter Biden was never suspect in these investigations, yet the Biden family were the only people named in the president's request. What we're talking about is a misuse of executive power, a US president withholding military aid as a means of targeting a political opponent specially. Again, the president did not mention the Burisma company, he specifically requested them to go after his political opponent, and he made this request without the Justice Department's knowledge. The request was made unilaterally, and the aid was being withheld against the Pentagon's advice.
     
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    You left out the most important part. Obama refused to send them weapons because their president at that time was a Russian puppet.

    But dont let that get in the way of your canonization of Trump
     
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    Cleaning up corruption is in everyone's interest. Running for president does not make you immune from prosecution for criminal acts.
     
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    However Biden's son became a de facto conduit to the Obama white house that Got Burisma a hearing with the Obama white house and like it or not that all but guarantees Hunter and daddy most certainly were at the very least in violation of the emoluments clause.
     
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    Look at the little Marxist TRYING TO CONTROL SPEECH!!!

    These people have nothing, they have hired legions of lawyers in order to bend the law to silence people and avoid real convesations

    Welcome to Post Modernism people, these are Marxist shills and nothing more.

    They will do ANYTHING they can to silence the opposition, these are literal Soviet tactics. Anything they can do to shut you up and make you dislike a "typical Western ideal".

    Take the persons name for instance ANDREW JACKSON.

    This was an amazing President, he fought off the banks and brought on one of the best economies in US history. But they don't want you to know that, so what do they do? ATTACK HIM FOR INDIANS!!!!! They try to "deconstruct" Andrew Jackson, just so people don't pay attention to what he did against the banks.

    THESE PEOPLE ARE IN THE POCKET OF THE INTERNATIONAL BANKS
     
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    Another Prime Example.

    Refusing to talk about what is going on, but looking for ways to bend "the rules" to silence people

    It's so hilariously Marxist, you guys aren't able to hide your protection of the International Bankers anymore

    They want Global Corporatism and are pushing you useful id..ts to want Socialism at a local level.

    But people are waking up, they see how destructive such ideological lies are.

    If you are reading this, you need to be aware of the connection between Post Modernism and International Banking
     
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    Putin told Obama exactly how to handle the Ukraine situation while the Koch-Glitsch pipeline equipment deal was being transacted.
     
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    Yes, this sounds insane.

    E.P.A. to Limit Science Used to Write Public Health Rules
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/11/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

    “This means the E.P.A. can justify rolling back rules or failing to update rules based on the best information to protect public health and the environment, which means more dirty air and more premature deaths,” said Paul Billings, senior vice president for advocacy at the American Lung Association.

    Public health experts warned that studies that have been used for decades — to show, for example, that mercury from power plants impairs brain development, or that lead in paint dust is tied to behavioral disorders in children — might be inadmissible when existing regulations come up for renewal."
     
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    You need to rethink your observation that the Dems have produced no legislation. They have forwarded over 100 pieces of legislation to the Senate. They are all sitting on McConnell's desk. He will not allow them on the floor for consideration and vote. Many of the bills are bipartisan.
     
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    I valid link
     
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    Not the same thing. Trump was withholding aid for personal gain, not because his country and most of the civilized world wanted that prosecutor out because he wouldn't prosecute corruption. Biden had marching orders for the good of Ukraine, us, and the rest of the world.

    I think it would help many here if they knew why we were making allies out of Ukraine. So far, the only pundit, journalist, or politician who has even mentioned what was at the core of this relationship was Rachel Maddow a couple of weeks ago.

    https://www.rferl.org/a/the-destruction-of-ukraines-nuclear-arsenal/29699706.html

    The Clinton administration got Ukraine to rid themselves of these nukes in exchange for protection from Russia, and that began our relationship. Trump risked that relationship, risked our national security, in order to get dirt on Biden and fake "proof" that Ukraine and Hillary Clinton conspired to interfere in our election. And btw, that fake story originated with Putin by some accounts.
     
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    That is what we have been telling you about Trump all along.
     
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    But you don't have even one criminal act. Leftist not liking something doesn't make it criminal
     
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    lol - They haven't done squat except work on destroying the country and trying to cover up their crimes.
     
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    :roflol:

    That sounds EXACTLY like your BLOTUS and the GOP!
     
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    It would amaze me that you get this wrong if you didn't get everything else wrong too. Tell me why you think an investigative firm hiring a former British intel officer to research Don, with no one in the Clinton campaign being aware of that fact, is analogous to Trump trying to extort the prez of a foreign country?
     

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