Beto O'Rourke Says He'll Send Cops Door-To-Door To Confiscate AR-15s

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  1. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Beto: gave a lesson in how to kill a Presidential campaign in the US after learning from Hillary.
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Beto is a classic example of why I can't stand politicians. Most of these people don't even have fundamental beliefs they just shift their beliefs with the political winds in whichever direction is most popular at the time. I honestly don't even know what Beto actually believes in his heart, whether he honestly believes people shouldn't be allowed to own AR-15s or not he knows that as a Democrat in 2019 you HAVE to say no to that.

    You step out of Progressive Left Wing goosestep in todays day and age and that's your ass. The Far left hierarchy will eat you alive and activate their personal media machine to purge your ass immediately if you do not align with the likes of Sanders or Warren on EVERY issue. Ask Tulsi Gabbard. Hell we live in a time where Joe Biden is a "moderate" lol....
     
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    O'Rourke and his ilk are really just saying that they would never allow themselves to own or possess a firearm, and if they did somehow come into possession of one, they would come break down their door and grab their guns from themselves, you bet they would.

    Fine. Just leave everyone else out of your delusion.
     
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    I have been involved in a number of political events, and what I discovered is professional politicians are actors, their beliefs matter not to the script their handlers are feeding them, I strongly Beto went off script to his core beliefs with the confiscation comment, I believe he mentioned years back at a rally in Texas where he was kissing up to the crowd that he owns an AR-15, but that's ok he is an political elitist, as such he shall be exempted from the rules he prescribes for others who are lesser then him.

    That's becoming a serious problem for the Democrats, their core supports their radical ideas, but they like the other party they need the swing votes from the undecided to win an election, and they the Democrats are scaring those voters away with every radical comment they utter.

    Unfortunately for them they consider voters to be dummies, who will vote for the politician who will best tax the rich and redistribute their wealth, and that plays well with their bankrupt core, but the majority of the undecided care about their wallets, more than the so called poor, and want nothing do with the rob from the rich and give to the poor programs, they understand the rich have always have way to get out of such programs, leaving them, the undecided to pay the tab, when the bill hits the table.

    I honestly believe the Democrats are setting themselves up for a serious loss come 2020 and they don't even realize it, they took over Congress by promising they would work in a bipartisan manner to solve the extremely high costs of Obama Care, a lot of the undecided are middle class workers and they got screwed with no lube by Obama Care and want it solved, and solved now, all they really about their wallets and their families.

    So what did the Democrat Congress do, they didn't solve what they where elected to do, they went radial with impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, failing to realize the undecided doesn't care about Trump or impeaching him, and what many of the undecided did notice is bump up in their take home pay since he got elected.

    As such I again will state I believe the undecided will come 2020 hold their nose's and reelect Trump and flip Congress back to the Republicans and there is a good possibility increase the number of Republicans in the Senate.

    After that the chit will hit the fan in the U.S., the Democrat core didn't take 2016 very well and a crushing loss in 2020 will cause them to go very violent.
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    I believe so as well and to me that tells the tale of the Democrat Party in 2019 and says a hell of a lot more about them than it does about Trump.

    I'm no die hard MAGA member, I praise him when he does what I believe is good and I criticize him when he does what I believe is bad. While I voted for him in 2016 and will do so again in 2020 it's not because I particularly like the guy it's because the Democrats have lost it in my opinion. The hard pill that Democrats don't want to swallow is the fact that Donald J. Trump won the 2016 election not because the nation wanted him to be President but because they hated Hillary Clinton.

    This nation is heavily divided but it's not like EVERYBODY is sitting in their respective trenches pointing their machine guns at the other side WW1 style. Millions of Americans are in no mans land who vote on policy and not hardcore party lines. I voted for Barack Obama and during his first term I didn't like what he was doing so I didn't vote for him a second time. I voted for Trump in 2016 and so many people who know me lost their absolute minds when they found out. Most of my friends and family simply cannot fathom how ANYBODY could possibly have ever supported Obama and then vote for Trump. What they don't understand is that I had no real choice. I am a citizen of the United States and I believe it one of my duties as a citizen to vote and when presented with Hillary Clinton as one of only two options then the decision was easy.

    I am what I believe to be a fairly rational guy. Trump isn't hard to beat, the guy isn't Ronald Reagan or anything. Although many of his policies I feel are doing well for the nation the man himself and his character and rhetoric are enough to turn most people away from him. Trump just being Trump on a daily basis provides enough ammo for any opposing party to launch the most vile anti-Trump ad campaign in history with enough content to last 100 years.

    Anybody SANE could wipe the floor with Donald Trump in 2020 and most Americans would vote that person in. "Yeah it was sort of funny watching our President yell at teenagers on Twitter and say "bullshit" on live TV for 4 years but lets get back to normal". But what do Democrats do? Out of all of the members of the Democrat Party they decide to toss up these super far left radical knucklehead clowns as candidates.

    I watched the debates, they had SANE people up there talking and those folks got MASSACRED by the likes of Warren and Bernie and their radical cohorts. Anybody that said anything that made actual sense was told to shut the hell up. Warren even flat out told one of them on stage something like look if you aren't willing to support our radical ass nutcase ideology then you don't belong up here.

    Take that Colorado Senator I don't even remember his name. The guy was NORMAL, he was decently well spoken, and while I obviously don't agree with many of his proposals he actually had logical common sense. During one of the early debates when it was his turn to finally talk he basically sat there bewildered saying what the hell is wrong with you people? Everything you guys are saying is INSANE, the American people aren't going to vote for you morons.

    He was one of the ones I was HOPING they tore apart. He made me nervous because he was SANE and the only thing required to beat Trump is somebody even remotely NORMAL. But nope, they fried his ass on the spot (thankfully).

    Oh well.
     
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    What the Democrats have failed to understand 2016 was voter revolt after years of Dems repeatedly failing to deliver on their promises and rather than adopting policies that benefit all citizens, instead catered to the coalition of the mosaic of a range minority groups they cobbled together under a narrative of social justice to be delivered at the expense of the majority of Americans blamed for that social justice. The wake up for many began with electing Mr. Hope and Change (Change can be good or bad) who proceeded to push through partisan legislation a Health Care policy that was based on the middle class and wealthier American to foot the bill knowingly deceiving voters with lies their premiums would decrease and they could keep their providers; it was a mistake of grand proportions because unlike many subtle shifts in policy that often result in changes over time, the impact on most households was obvious and felt almost immediately by families already struggling to make ends meet. Over time, instead of a message of hope, Average Americans were berated, almost daily, and blamed for racism, their religious beliefs, and other ills propagated by the cadre of the various minority constituents that constituted the Dem voter base. And, think Americans didn’t notice that politicians were exempted from the laws pressed on the population? And, what happened? Divisions increased. (If you continually beat your dog every time it doesn’t do your bidding, it doesn’t all the sudden acquiesce to your demands, it runs away when you are around...or at some point bites you). What is missed, the voter revolt was a repudiation of what the Dems were pushing and further, it triggered a similar back lash almost world wide in Britain, France, Italy, and many other countries where elitist politicians think they know more than those they represent.
    Beto, like many of the Dems are struggling to recover and part of that recovery is two fold. First, they are doing everything they can to convince voters Trump is evil by any means necessary, second,
    they have upped the rhetoric of blame and second, in the face of improving and economy they are not competing with the Trump Administration by providing a platform for improvement leaps over The current Admin, but are doing their best to impede the Administration, to make the Admins policies fail, even at the cost of sacrificing benefits to the population so they can blame the Administration for the failures, and third, they have come out of the socialism closet in more radical support of socialist idealism because the figure it will solidify their base by offering everything ‘free’... well to be paid for by the same ones they figured would foot the bill for Obamacare. Beyond that, they offer nothing positive except to attack the ‘evil’ Administration.
    Beto’s Call on guns, was an opportunistic means of trying to gain MSM support to attract badly needed funding and was ostensibly, a continuation of the ‘beating the dog’ methodology that worked so well in 2016.
    Rather than learn from 2016, it appears to me the Dems (an Beto) we’re doubling down on the methods and policies many voters ran from. They certainly are failing at attracting defectors from Trump’s base, rather, many of that base take the attacks personally, and instead are becoming more entrench in their support. Instead, there is growing uncertainty among the Dem moderates, and recent events, may result in reluctant defections to the GOP, not necessarily because they are ideological converts but because they would be rejecting the ideology and ‘far Left’ swing of the Dems.
     
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    I guess it wasn't the magic bullet Beto needed, he has dropped out of the race for President.

    Another one bites the dust.
     
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    More than likely the insane candidates are supported, simply to make the finalists of the nomination process look more reasonable and palatable to the voting public in comparison.
     
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    That's a good point, put the foulest garbage out front, so the trash that comes behind them attracts less files and hopefully more voters.

    None the less if the Democrats don't make a major shift in the course, something that will connect with the undecided, they are dooming themselves to a major fail in 2020.

    Their kissing up to a matrix of the weird and odd in society may play well with their core base, but they don't need to kiss up to their core base, they will always vote Democrat regardless, they need to push ideas, or as Hillary stated "out-lie" the other side to swing the undecided to their side, but I doubt they understand that or know how to do it.

    They really seem to have lost any connection with the reality of the middle class and that is who they need to win any elections outside of the slums they control.
     
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    More than likely the political party is hoping to exploit lax standards on voter identification to ensure victory.
     
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    Yup, their attitude is if one wants to exercise one's Constitutional right, they must jump through all types of hoops and loops, none if which allowed under the Second, but if one wants to vote, the doors are totally open to fraud and that is the liberal/progressive Democrat party's platform as it built now.

    They are the party of corruption and thuggery and I doubt that will change anytime soon.

    Conversely, the Republicans are week, limp wristed *******, who refuse to push back, because "rules" they operate under require them to maintain a level of civil decorum.

    There are bringing a dull pencil to a gun fight and they wonder why the keep on losing ground.
     
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    In a sane world I would agree with your assessment as a viable strategy but that only makes sense if the ones who were left were not just as nuts. However in the current backwards society we live in I don't think so. I think these candidates really are as ridiculous as they appear and Beto had to bail because nobody really knows who he is unlike Bernie, Biden, and Elizabeth. Lets not pretend that the top 3 are not just as insane as Beto is, they just have greater name recognition.
     
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    The frog from the fable says while there are different kinds of scorpions he’s not giving any of them a ride across the stream because a scorpion is still a scorpion.
     
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    What happens when the local LEOs refuse to help?
     
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    They'll call the National Guard because you are your little AR-15 doesn't stand a chance against an Abrams Tank!

    Or something like that lol...

    Most of those pushing for this sort of thing don't actually believe that LEO's will refuse to comply with it. Usually something along the lines of how nobody would sacrifice their career and ability to feed their family just to help you keep your dumb guns. And if LEO's didn't comply then the military surely would for some reason.
     
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    Ah. they are ignorant of the law.
    Well, that's no real surprise.
     

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