Texas gun control activist shoots her three children dead

Whatever the truth in your post not withstanding, anger and frustration are best served cold, and there is a lot more to it than you have said.

Let history be the judge: don't go there. "Mental health", "mental stability" -- whatever you want to call it, is at its core a political analysis. Politicians certainly see it in that light, and will not stop until they have your gun(s). That is why they don't do a damn thing about people who are well-known to those around them as about to go off the rails and commence shooting. They actually oppose the intent of red flag laws, you see. They do not care about mass shootings beyond the power they can reap from the public as a consequence.

Yeah, actually you can sit there with your arms folded. So? What about it? It's better than letting them push you down a slippery slope into their eventual dictatorship. If you go there even with the best intentions, it will get away from you. What you think and do and what they think and do are two completely different things. You just happen to be temporarily on the same road. Historically, it's the way politicians are.

Look, say a guy is a good citizen and he owns guns. But he's conservative. All he means to liberals is that he has guns and he opposes agendas, 99% of which is absolute insanity.

Now, how easy would it be for them to piss him off in some unrelated venue or situation, create a record of his negative disposition that results, then do it again in some other venue or situation. Bang (oh, sorry) in not time he has a record of demonstrating a propensity for losing his temper. Didn't used to be that way, but he is now. He's a conservative, a gun owner, and he has a bad temper. If you don't think this kind of thing can be orchestrated, you're very wrong. See, they don't like him and see him as a threat, and well, meet with your "neighborhood crime watch" and some attorneys and determine the best way to dispose of him and his guns.

This obviously subversive "red flag" law for votes itself provides much of the motivation for fabricating entrepreneurial application, call it. What a challenge to liberals!

Don't forget, too, that there is a long, long list of prescription medications that automatically require the user to give up his guns. If he isn't aware of this (he probably is) and he goes to a doctor for relief of stress liberals have largely caused and, say, gets a prescription from a confederate doctor, Bang! -- oh, sorry -- they got him.

IMHO, it is just not possible to even entertain any gun control proposals because the intent is so clearly duplicitous. What they want has nothing to do with what they tell the public. These lying liberal lawmakers don't even look at the tons of evidence pointing out excellent reasons for opposing gun control and all the political BS, let alone argue with any of it. Have you ever seen a single one of them actually argue against the pros of gun ownership? I haven't, and I don't ever expect to.

They are lying like crazy about this issue and as much as possible, one must not give them one inch of slack.

I'd be happy to read any "Plan B", but "red flag" laws are just folly.

 

Here's the problem, most states already have laws that allow law enforcement to confiscate a firearm that was used as a threat, they just don't enforce them.

So since a law is not being enforced, the CGA's want to layer another law on top of the one not being enforced, however Red Flag laws are really not laws, they are bypass's to the existing right of presumed innocent until proven guilty, Red Flag laws assume one is guilty, until proven innocent, and in many cases the accused is not given a chance to defend himself, the firearms are confiscated and them the person must prove he is not a threat to himself or others and that, because of medical negligence suits will never be possible, no doctor in this country is going to risk his practice by signing off on a person never being a future threat.

Red flag laws are nothing more than a backdoor method of confiscation, an ex gets pissed, your guns are gone, you didn't call that date back, your guns are gone, you fired a shot and scared off an intruder and a liberal neighbor see's you as a threat to the community, your guns are gone .

And since you have been Red Flagged, you can no longer buy a firearm, as you now have a mental health record and are disqualified under federal law from buying any firearms or ammo.

And Red Flag laws are just the tip of the spear, if the GCA's and their wealthy backers can suppress the Second with them, the First is next and many more rights will follow down that path after.

Just look to England where people are being jailed for speaking out against Islam on-line, that's where we could be heading.

 

Thank you for a most informative post.

 

If the wife bugs me again during the 'phins game I'll have a definitive answer for you tomorrow.

 

The matter is further complicated by the reveal that those who favor these so-called "red flag laws" have gone on record as opposing any efforts to include the names of known or suspected gang members and their affiliates for who the supposed protection orders can be taken out against. Thus demonstrating the laws have absolutely nothing to do with the notion of public safety.

 

Well they do something similar by causing rival gang members to become involuntary blood donors.

 

No. You're not serious. Did you make up that URL and website? Nobody (Left or Right) could be that confused or that hypocritical. Here, let me use the very "evil" tool that I rail against each day to take the life of my family members and then myself? My gawd. Who are these confused people and where the hell do they come from - Mars or Jupiter?

Got to be a joke (*spoofed*) website. I don't buy it. Too bizarre.

 

To bad pal that is reality, it's a shame you cannot accept it!