Colleges&Universities closing or merging at alarming rate.

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  1. FatBack

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    Maybe they should offer real skills, in demand, less such useless degrees as "lesbian dance theory" .
     
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  2. 61falcon

    61falcon Well-Known Member

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    Colleges and universities have never been job placement agencies, although major employers often recruit on most campuses.
     
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    ^^^^^ Win

    Parents, students, anyone paying attention sees the ROI as horrible for far too many. We have pushed kids into colleges that really were never ready for, or meant to be going to college. The financial waste in time, money, and opportunity for these students that should have went on to an apprenticeship, or trade school, etc... is massive.

    This is an excellent trend to get rid of so many of these "professors" that provide little of anything useful in the real world at the very costly expense to the future of the Gen X and now Gen Z Americans.

    Close those scam schools and their worthless offerings.
     
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    61falcon Well-Known Member

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    We close Malls and factories and now colleges yet we have no homes for the homeless??????Something stinks in Denmark.
     
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    Universities have done a horrible job of aligning with market forces.

    1. Their services are too expensive, often driven by wages and staffing completely out of alignment with the private sector.
    2. They are selling degrees that historically are proving there is little ROI
    3. In high economies, more people are working and less likely to be enrolled
    4. Years of pushing college degrees has led to shortages in the trades, that often have higher immediate ROI
     
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    There isn't some king making these decisions. These decisions are made by the market. The market, though at times brutal, is the most efficient way to operate.
     
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    61falcon Well-Known Member

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    I know my son, who prepares bid specs for the construction company he works for, says their biggest problem for the past several years has been hiring trained and skilled motivated workers
     
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    That's also true. I don't think anyone denies that.
     
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    Not enough identity politics studies degrees: Women Studies, LGBT Studies, African American Studies, Hispanic Studies, Muslim Studies.

    Perhaps the snowflakes should get into construction: Amazon is hiring: Lots of Distribution Centers to build.
     
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    The colleges set the tuition,and they decided to take advantage of the government's overly-generous and basically unregulated college loans, and they raided the piggybank for everything they could get their greasy mitts on.

    Now they've pricing themselves out of the market. Even while they sit on monstrous endowments, the colleges still only continue to raise tuition.

    Speaking of Harvard. Harvard sits on a $36 billion endowment while they charge students $50,000/year tuition.

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    Get the government out of the loan business, bring private enterprise and sanity back, and let the free market correct the college's piggish greed for ever more tuition money to stuff into their already bursting-at-the-seams war chests.

    The MAGA economy truly is a marvel.
     
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    Good the US market is saturated, and these are privates schools closing and pubic schools merging. Yet market forces do not come into play in secondary education, because of government subsidies AKA student loans guarantees.
    When has a college reduced cost to students to attract students?
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/w...-colleges-are-in-danger-of-closing-2017-06-13
    https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Here-s-why-colleges-are-being-forced-to-close-14816658.php
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/expert...es-will-fail-in-the-next-20-years-2019-08-31/
    https://www.insidehighered.com/news...me-seeing-long-predicted-consolidation-taking

    Yet there is more students worldwide than ever before in recorded history.
    https://qz.com/965664/the-number-of...private-colleges-that-are-meeting-the-demand/
     
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    You don't mention the type of colleges, but there was a bit of a scandal a few years back. Private for profit colleges were luring students into junk educations. Trump even got in on that scam. Mostly they were colleges who taught things like hair cutting, office assistance, and nursing. A lot of those colleges have gone out of business in the past several years, like Trump University did.
     
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    The original purpose of colleges, in the English tradition, has been to train gentleman, to give them the knowledge to rule over the lower classes.
     
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    I went to college because of my undying thirst for ever more knowledge. Return on investment was never a consideration.
     
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    The state of Colorado paid for my college education. Or should I say the state of Colorado provided me a top notch college education at a top research university, at no cost to me. It was part of Colorado's efforts to make sure all of their top high school graduates got a chance at a college education. It is an effort that has paid off. Colorado has a greater density of college educated citizens than just about every other state. And the results have been profound, with Colorado's economy toping other states, with its booming high tech sector and having more national laboratories than other states.
     
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    I don't know how it is today but when my kids were iin college all of their student loans were through local banks??My youngest is now 36.
     
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    I paid for my home just as I paid for my college education. Why should I also pay for theirs?
     
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    My point is we have more than enough EMPTY BUILDINGS JUST DECAYING IN PLACE???
     
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    So lease one and start a business or a college of your own.
     
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    If they don't prepare you for work. They are useless and we should stop funding them and stop giving loans and grants for people to attend them.
    The purpose of government involvement is not personal enrichment it's to manufacture tax payers and give people the skills they need to contribute to society.
     
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    My point is why don't they convert some of these deserted buildings to living quarters for the homeless,most already have bathrooms.
     
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    We have had a swing in universities away from teaching genuinely beneficial skills- to teaching political and social disruption, and doing anything that would bring in the bucks. That is NOT education. Any schools we lose that were in that business- good riddance. Part of what they do is make it difficult for the good schools to survive.
     
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    After hearing that UVa, my alma mater, decided to can the 21 gun salute to honor the fallen yesterday, it became clear that Universities are running out of dead peoples' money. As endowments bleed out, more will go under since they decided to alienate 50% of the population.

    This is one more bit of evidence that, with almost no exception, liberal enclaves TREND toward the dumpster.
     
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    College just isn't good anymore. In the 90s most people got out of college to good salary jobs and now they graduate college and live in Mom's basement and help out with the bills from their starbucks paycheck. Specialization, blue collar, trade skills, cyber security, pharma, x-ray techs and of course the medical field is where its at now.
    College isn't really worth shyt anymore
     
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    Obviously you are just talking trash about something you know nothing about. Liberal enclaves are where the action is.
     

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