Canadian teacher: “Girls are not real”

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  1. lpast

    lpast Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow just think about it, they have universal health care and no girls, I cant wait to get there


    Imagine sending your six-year-old daughter off to elementary school one day, only to have her come home and start asking you whether she was actually a girl or if girls and boys are even real things. And this is a daughter who was previously well adjusted and never gave any indication that such a question had even crossed her mind. That’s what happened to the parents of one young girl in Ontario, Canada last year. After watching a classroom presentation on gender and “queer kid stuff,” the child came home completely flummoxed. And the parents wound up having to switch her to a different school and go to court over the matter.

    https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2019/11/11/canadian-teacher-girls-not-real/
     
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    Pred Well-Known Member

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    Just a little mind boggling. No folks. Teachers are NOT brain washing children or pushing political narratives. Oh look a squirrel!!!!!
     
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  3. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    I have the great suspicion that the OP may have misinterpreted or misunderstood the "story" and hopefully the misinterpretation was unintentional.
     
  4. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well support your suspicions.

    Here is a more detailed accounting.

    "The teacher of her first grade class had drawn a "gender spectrum" on the whiteboard and asked the children to identify where they placed on the spectrum. Buffone's daughter picked the furthest end of the spectrum designated "girl." Their human rights complaint claims that the teacher instructed the class that "girls are not real, and boys are not real," which greatly distressed their daughter."

    https://www.christianpost.com/news/...real-file-lawsuit-against-school-teacher.html
     
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    The story is there to read.
     
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    A couple of points. Your source essentially just copied information from a primary source, wrapped its own spin around it and put it behind a pay wall. I’m not sure supporting that kind of behaviour by linking them is a good idea, especially when you could have just linked the primary source.

    That said, the primary source is the Christian Post, and so hardly neutral on the topic. It is also exclusively based on the allegations in an apparently as yet unresolved court case and an interview with the parents (with some suggestion of leading questions – “Asked to comment on how the sowing of confusion about sex and gender into the minds of young girls impacts women's rights as a whole, she said…”). There doesn’t even seem to have been an attempt to give the school a right-of-reply (not that they’re legally allowed to say much in such cases, which is always convenient for the spin). There are some definitive statements about what happened in the class but presumably that is all coming via the recollection of a six-year old. There could well have been plenty wrong with that class but nothing is definitive here and this kind of case is almost always much more complex and nuanced than is initially made out by one side.

    It’d be more informative to get reporting on the proceedings and outcome of the actual case but I very much doubt that will happen unless the result can be spun as a complete vindication for the parents.

    But sure, by all means hate Canada a little more just because you read this if that’s how you want to live your life.
     
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    Ok now we have the story. So this sorry excuse of a "teacher " is saying that neither girls nor boys are real genders.

    That is intellectually wrong since humans have defined ourselves in two distinct genders. male and female. That distinction is based on biology which is defined by the functional differences of each gender.

    This so called teacher is twisting, contorting, and abusing the minds of those young children. Of course this "teacher" is pushing her or his own beliefs about gender upon those innocent children. Since thatv"teacher" is pushing his/her ow beliefs it is very very very much the same as if that "teacher" was pushing her/ his own religion onto the child. That is unconstitutional even in Canada I would hope.
    The sorry excuse of a teacher needs to be fired and some law found to legally punish the "teacher".
     
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    What do you expect, it's from a right wing blog titled "HOT AIR"??????That title says it all.
     
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    I would like to tell that teacher that girls have been very real to me since my first crush at age 6, and they are still very real at age 64.

    VERY real.
     
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    There is no spectrum. You're male or female, though dysphoria can occur.

    It's abusive to normalize mental illness in the classroom, especially at an age where sexuality and gender shouldn't matter at all.
     
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    That's called denial.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    No, it is called being cautious.
     
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    Its why you do a quick cross reference for another source to only realize that yes this woman is insane and shouldn’t be near children in any teaching capacity. :)
     
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    Children should be taught to reach for the sky. Maybe one day, Johnny will discover a new gender. Years ago, there were only 2, but Johnny made a breakthrough discovery and identified the 312th gender. Science!!!!! Manbearpig!
     
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    yes, some teachers take things too far, we had a teacher telling people they would go to hell for not believing in God too.... teachers caught doing these things should be fired

    we even had one christian teacher burning a cross into childrens skin

    "Teacher accused of burning cross on student's arm"

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/06/20/teacher.cross/

    how about this pastor?

    "Pastor: I punched a kid ‘as hard as I could’ for ‘not taking the Lord serious’"

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/...d-as-i-could-for-not-taking-the-lord-serious/

    crazy people out there
     
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  18. perdidochas

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    Canada, not the U.S.
     
  19. FreshAir

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    most of us refer to it as gender (based on genitalia one is born with), which can be one or the other or both

    but I will agree there are differing degrees of femininity and masculinity

    maybe even feminine souls in a male body, ect.....

    for medical purposes we need to keep a distinction as there is medical differences
     
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    The massive government school education model is a fully exposed dangerous boondoggle.

    All of the revenue flowing into the monstrosity should be diverted directly to the control of the parents and guardians of school children and then to liberated teacher owned and operated schools.
     
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    Or laziness, I verified it in about 5 seconds.
     
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    No most of us don't refer to it that way and certainly teachers should not be ESPECIALLY without discussing with parents first.
     
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    what do you use to decide if someone is male or female if not their gender (based on genitalia one is born with)?
     
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    Nothing in the story indicated that the teacher told her directly "girls aren't real".
     
  25. Bluesguy

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    Or you trying to mitigate what happened to THIS little girl or something?
     

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