9-11 Truthers & Holocaust Deniers

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  1. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Talk about "irrational", if you actually have something relevant to add to the discussion you are welcome to do so. Your contrived amusement has no relevance to anything, no one cares.
     
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    It's old, Ron.

    Some people have an abiding belief that nothing is what it appears to be. Everything (in their minds) is the outcome of the actions of omnipotent puppet masters who control everything.

    And the paranoia about the Jews being at the helm of it all is old, old, old.

    It's not an anomaly, and it's not a trend. I can remember reading about this type of thinking back when I was a boy, and that was a long time ago.
     
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    Obviously you're much better versed on the history of SCOTUS than I am, and also on the details of 9/11. For me, after reading enough and seeing enough videos, I was done and wanted to move on...with the simple take-away that, indeed, nothing stated officially by the various departments of government can be trusted without further, and thorough scrutiny. But then again, this is nothing surprising, as it's been going on this way for millenia...only that today, with advancements in technology, the agenda of enslaving the masses can be consolidated & expanded world-wide.
     
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  4. Just_a_Citizen

    Just_a_Citizen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I find that both groups, are generally morons, and I don't associate with morons.
     
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    This often happens under the rule of totalitarianism, such as National Socialism and Communism. These are really crazy psychopathic systems. Western countries instead, do not mass murder their own citizens. They simply have no reason for that. They always act rationally, without, however, losing sight of their own advantages.

    The two big towers were hit by planes. As a result, the fire protection was torn off from the steel girders. The subsequent fire weakened the girders. The burning floors then collapsed and the impulse triggered a chain reaction.

    In my opinion, only the collapse of the smaller building is not sufficiently clarified. Maybe someone helped with that. Because of insurance fraud?
     
  6. Bob0627

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    Tell that to the American Indians, not to mention German Jews. Ah but the US government did decide who is and who isn't a "citizen", didn't they?

    Your definition of "rational" leaves a lot to be desired. While some in power do show some sympathy and act for the benefit of those they lead, most are in power for self serving reasons and will act as they see fit for their own agenda. How you define that as "rational" is another matter.

    Thanks for your regurgitation of the OCT (in your personal opinion) as you were fed. Experts (which you are far from one obviously), facts/science and common sense dictate an entirely different scenario.

    So in your opinion there is a chance that WTC7 was a controlled demolition (for "insurance fraud")? Yet it seems you don't understand the ramifications of such a scenario because you're not taking it to the next step.
     
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  7. Grau

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    Do you know the difference between "holocaust denial" & holocaust revisionism?

    Holocaust denial is a deliberately deceptive epithet used to misrepresent the findings of holocaust revisionists who have discovered that the standard holocaust narrative is grossly exaggerated and filled with grisly fables.


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    By the way, the overwhelming majority of the world's population does not believe the standard holocaust narrative so that would make those duped by the Holocaust Industry the true "conspiracy theorists"


    ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “Only 54 percent of the world's population has heard of the Holocaust.

    This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

    Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED
     
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    I'd Also like to throw my hat in with the Truthers, and the Deniers, and the Conspiracists about the Truthers and the Deniers, mine Also blames the Jews.
    Why aren't we returning to an electoral college that held no general vote, but selected Presidents from the Governors' offices?
    Its because Eisenhower, in league with the Holocaust Jews, switched the direction of the Democratic God who is essential to our Civilization, to respect Muslims, stuff like that, and listen to Einstein, stuff like that. Woodrow Wilson already listened to Einstein.
     
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    Ed Asner an avowed liberal Hollywood leftist was a big proponent of the 9/11 truth movement as is Rosie O’Donell. I am sure there are millions of other left leaning Americans who have serious doubts regarding the attack on 9/11. I don’t claim to know exactly what happened that day but I do not buy the official version at all.
     
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    You're far from alone as the majority of Americans, today, do not believe the official 9/11 story.

    I'm a blacksmith who has made innumerable wrought iron objects and structures by heating, bending and shaping hot steel. I, too, simply don't believe that jet fuel could get structural steel hot enough to fail as reported in the official narrative.

    Apparently, it is those who have been duped by the US government's official story who are now the "conspiracy theorists".

    "The Tide is Turning: The Official Story Is Now The Conspiracy Theory"
    https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.co...-official-story-is-now-the-conspiracy-theory/
    EXCERPT "Europhysics, the respected publication of the European physics community has published an article by scientists who conclude that “the evidence points overwhelmingly to the conclusion that all three [World Trade Center] buildings were destroyed by controlled demolition.” Few American scientists can admit this, because their careers depend on US government and military/security complex research contracts. Independent scientists in the US are a vanishing breed, an endangered species."CONTINUED
     
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    The official story was and always will be just a conspiracy theory and nothing more. An impossible story at that based on a slew of admitted lies and coverups otherwise known as “classified information”.
     
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    Well, Bob, as you've seen, I'm afraid that most people who believe and promote the official 9/11 explanation believe it not because it is credible but because it gives them yet another "reason" to express their existing anti Muslim bigotry.
     
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    Yes I do,. TYVM for adding another block of morons to my list.
     
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    So, in other words, you actually believe stuff like the following holocaust survivor stories:


    “Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust”
    http://balder.org/judea/The-Most-Fan...e-Miracles.php

    EXCERPTS:
    • Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen

    • William Lowenberg's astounding Holocaust tale - Had a magic thirst-quenching pebble, did not drink water, survived on his saliva for 3 years

    • Yankel Wiernik's Holotale - Babies torn in half, woman leaps 10 ft barbed-wire fence, guards nail inmates' ears to walls, jews roasted on giant outdoor hibachis

    • Testimony from the Eichmann Trial by Leon Wells - Dug up and burned bodies, used bone-grinding machine, ate lunch on top of corpses

    • Irene Zisblatt's incredible Holocaust tale- Ate and retrieved diamonds from feces, had 2 post-sterilization children, weighed 40 lbs when liberated

    • Rivka Yosselevska's absurd Holocaust fable - Escaped biting jew corpses, witnessed geysers of blood” CONTINUED


    If you actually believe the nonsense promoted by the Holocaust Industry, you may want to reconsider calling those who don't "morons".
     
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    I believe the history books.

    Ignored.
     
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    yes, both "theories" follow shitty math, denial of history, total ignorance of engineering/physics, and plain old idiocy.
     
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    I do believe that some are bigots but I think most who bought the OCT either believe that anything peddled by authority is true or are cognitive dissonants. Then again the two mindsets are closely related.
     
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    I try to avoid trolls who have nothing intelligent to post and only know how to resort to name calling, which is a violation of the rules of the forum. Just so you know.
     
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    IDGAF, and I called no one anything.
     
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    The only idiocy is the belief that Holocaust deniers and those who demand the truth about 9/11 have anything in common at all. The claim that they do is strictly used to try to ridicule those who don't buy the official 9/11 fairy tale. Denial of history and ignorance of science and facts is a hallmark of those who bought the 9/11 fairy tale, especially given the many years of research conducted and papers written by experts in many different scientific disciplines that corroborate their conclusions.

    “We haven’t found one single engineer who will stand behind the NIST report.” — Roland Angle

    https://www.ae911truth.org/news/618...growing-fear-of-project-due-diligence-message
     
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    The decline of the Native Americans was actually an accident, so not intended.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas

    Nazi Germany was not a western country in the sense of freedom and democracy. Nazism is like a crazy sectarian belief. Anti-Semitic and murderous towards other cultures. They killed not only German Jews but all, including those in the occupied countries.
     
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    Your Native American comment, is PURE BULLSHIT!

    If the Natives didn't go to reservations nicely, the federal government was more than happy to exterminate every last one.
     
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    It was not a concerted action that led to the Natives becoming less and less. There was no great plan to wipe them off the planet, no intentional genocide. There were some atrocities, including biological warfare against the Natives. But that were criminal acts of individual perpetrators.
     

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