There’s a Surprisingly Plausible Path to Removing Trump From Office

There have only been three impeachments, up until now Primary Challenges were not a factor in any of them

As I understand it up until just recently Primaries weren't really that big of a factor in picking a party's candidate in any case. Nobody really voted in them since the Party bosses chose the candidates and it was a sort of Frick vs Frack choice to make the public feel better, Primary challenges, since they involved basically running against your own party's whole organization, were just quixotic exercises in futility by some guy with more political fanaticism than good sense They required the advent of Dark Money and the Billionaires Cabal to get any real tracion.

 

In the fever to eliminate a political enemy, Democrats beg for secret tyranny.

 

In other words, you are making things up. I read the entire thread. Trump has committed multiple crimes; thanks for verifying that.

 

It's hilarious because the left wants to pretend if they had just kept investigating they'd have found something.

 

Actually I quoted the Mueller report verbatim in my response.

And no, they did not find evidence of a conspiracy. That's your emotions thinking for you.

 

They're Bolsheviks, what do you expect really.

 

You quoted from a summary.

I don't post "emotionally". My professional training runs 3 decades deep. I use sources.

I'll ask you again: Do you want me to quote from the report--not the summary--?

 

Sure, feel free.

 

You do understand the space/time continuum, don't you?

Mueller believed that. Mueller stated that "but the evidence does indicate that a thorough FBI investigation would uncover facts about the campaign and the President personally that the President could have understood to be crimes or that would give rise to personal and political concerns" with respect to the Russian conspiracy issue.

When witnesses lie, destroy evidence or have it encrypted, or are unavailable, a more thorough investigation might uncover additional facts. What's so puzzling to you about that?

 

See post 360. Would you like to see how witnesses lied, destroyed or encrypted evidence?

 

Oh I'd love that.

 

And did they do a thorough investigation or was former FBI director Mueller just incompetent.

 

I doubt that you "love" the truth.

Here you are:

"The investigation did not always yield admissible information or testimony, or a complete picture of the activities undertaken by subjects of the investigation. Some individuals invoked their Fifth Amendment right against compelled self-incrimination and were not, in the Office’s judgment, appropriate candidates for grants of immunity. The Office limited its pursuit of other witnesses and information—such as information known to attorneys or individuals claiming to be members of the media—in light of internal Department of Justice policies. See, e.g., Justice Manual §§ 9-13.400, 13.410. Some of the information obtained via court process, moreover, was presumptively covered by legal privilege and was screened from investigators by a filter (or "taint") team. Even when individuals testified or agreed to be interviewed, they sometimes provided information that was false or incomplete, leading to some of the false-statements charges described above. And the Office faced practical limits on its ability to access relevant evidence as well—numerous witnesses and subjects lived abroad, and documents were held outside the United States.


Further, the Office learned that some of the individuals we interviewed or whose conduct we investigated—including some associated with the Trump Campaign—deleted relevant communications or communicated during the relevant period using applications that feature encryption or that do not provide for long-term retention of data or communications records. In such cases, the Office was not able to corroborate witness statements through comparison to contemporaneous communications or fully question witnesses about statements that appeared inconsistent with other known facts.

Accordingly, while this report embodies factual and legal determinations that the Office believes to be accurate and complete to the greatest extent possible, given these identified gaps, the Office cannot rule out the possibility that the unavailable information would shed additional light on (or cast in a new light) the events described in the report."

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See post 364. It's a summary of how Team Bonespurs lied, destroyed evidence, and hid the truth.

THat doesn't even include the constant obstruction of the investigation.

 

So he caught some people lying and still couldn't find the crime.

All you've shown here is that former director Mueller, thousands of subpoenas, millions of dollars, the full weight of the US government, a hand picked team of Trump hating lawyers, all of Hillary's contacts, the DNC, the FBI, the CIA and multiple foreign countries couldn't find a single American to pin a conspiracy on.

So what you're saying is.....Trump is a genius.

 

I agree with this completely

 

So all those cases which I never heard about were just dropped? And if he "plotted with Lewinsky" what happened to her as a result of that? Though you are right about one thing, Trump's withholding of several millions of dollars worth of desperately needed military unless Kerensky "did him a favor" was extortion, not bribery.

 

Why would they stop here? Why shouldn't the Republicans act in kind and follow their lead?

 

He certainly is the most thoroughly vetted POTUS in US history.

 

They got the military aid. Obama sent them blankets.

 

The Muelller report sent several highly placed functionaries to jail for long periods and paid for itself in fines. It's full effect won't be known until after 2020 when will finally be able to indict Trump.

 

They got the aid after this scandal broke, and 247 millions is a LOT of blankets

 

Yep. It got two guys for tax evasion, and charged a few with process crimes of "lying". Of course, whatever they "lied" about did not lead to any further underlying crimes.

 

The easiest way to 'remove' Trump would be to have a viable candidate. Oh, I get it, the clowns the DNC is running have no shot, so progs are looking for a plan B. How pathetic...

 

Well, why have a Constitution or a government? You're saying that no elected official can be brought to justice for any crime at all because to do so thwarts the 'will of the people' and not even the ACTUAL will but just the will certain people in certain areas

Why don't you just come out an say that 2016 was the last election, that we got one man, one vote, once.