And the Adam POSchiff Shitshow Begins...Impeachment Inquiry Hearings

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  1. After-Hour Prowler

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    There was stories about him paying off his 19 year gay friend to settle his sexual harassment suit in 2013.

    He sure has the mannerism of a gay guy.
     
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    He got ahead because he allied himself with people like Ed Buck: serial killer.
     
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    Because of Hunter's train riding prowess. Which makes it such a laugh when he cited his training riding skills as one of the reasons why he was chosen to sit on the board of directors for Burisma.

    Hunter Biden’s One Qualification for Amtrak Board Was Taking Trains

    But more significantly, Hunter has spent a lot of time on Amtrak trains. Like his father, Rep. Mike Castle and myself, Hunter Biden has lived in Delaware while using Amtrak to commute to his job in Washington, D.C. You learn a lot about what works and what could work better at Amtrak by riding those trains. You also see the huge economic benefit that a region receives from having a strong passenger rail corridor – something that should be available in more of the country.
     
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    Jim Jordan single-handedly destroyed this Schiff sham


    You're Their Star Witness?!?"
     
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    Didn't catch all of it, but the guy from Utah, Chris Stewart, also did a pretty good job with his 5 minutes. There was also a congresswoman I was impressed with, but I can't remember her name or where she was from.

    The main players, Nunes, Ratcliffe, Jordan etc. did about as good as they could. It's just not a forum where anyone can really make a strong case one way or another, which is probably how Schiff Head and the Dems want it to be.

    edit: as an update, I think it was Stefanik from NY that I was referring to.
     
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    Hilarious. Dems hanging their hats on Adam POSchiff who had an infatuation with getting nudes of Donald Trump and has been hosted by an Ukrainian arms dealer....in the Ukrainian's personal home....to fundraise for his slimy re-election campaigns. Think of this....the guy targeting Trump who conspired with a shitbag leaker is upset that Trump was withholding military aid to Ukraine and just so happens head fluffer pickle puffer Adam POSchiff is getting donations from one of the recipients of said aid. Conflict? Oh no, nothing to see here. :roflol:
     
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    That image says it all. The star witnesses by the dems, are relying on the hearsay of others, and repeating their own personal opinions and speculations, and repeating those of others. Gossip, rumors and hearsay, oh my.

    The transcript does not show any quid pro quo, nor did it attach any preconditions on aid to Ukraine. Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky, has been interviewed many times, and has repeatedly denied all of the charges being made against Trump. So the opinions by witnesses to the contrary, is worthless.
     
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    So, tell us, what was their defense of Trump?

    Are you both afraid to put it in writing so that others can respond?

    The thread entitled "To impeach or not to impeach, that is the question" has provided an abundance of evidence of impeachment offenses committed by Trump.

    Where are Trump's supporters? Answer: No where to be found.

    That tells the true story.
     
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    That there was no "crime".
     
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    The point is that this isn't really "holding accountable" at all. What we have is an extreme mentality out of control on the left, who seeks to destroy the president and reverse the election at any cost and by any means. Now we have seen challenge after challenge here- and given that this one will fail too, you can bet they have four or five more in line to follow. This has nothing to do with justice or accountability- except in the minds of people who have allowed the lynch-mob mentality of the extremists to whip up hate to the point of them screaming for vengeance- and having virtually no realistic grasp of why. They jump on anything and everything and try to make some evil act out of it- and they are by far exceeding the offenses they are claiming others are guilty of.

    In their view- the rules are different, and they don't need to be accountable because even totally out of control, they deem themselves righteous. I deem them Rabid. And I DO hold them accountable for that.
     
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    Unfortunately the President asked specifically for an investigation into the younger Biden.
     
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    And?

    Democrats asked specifically for an investigation into Trump Jr.

    What's the difference.
     
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    Which is within his right.
     
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    The witnesses worked for Trump, mostly in the state department. They are voicing what their superiors told them.

    Are you saying there is no chain of command in the Trump government?

    Taylor's instructions from his bosses, including SecState Pompeo are worthless. Is that what you are saying?

    Trump's own words incriminate him. That is not hearsay.

    Are you saying the only viable witnesses are those who talk directly to Trump?

    Then we have a problem because Trump will not allow people who speak directly to him to testify, Mulvaney, Bolton, Giuliani, and others. There is only one reason. They will incriminate him. That is called Obstruction of Congress, a federal crime.

    Are you saying the criminal behavior of the accused, Trump, is a defense?

    Trump withheld the military aid needed by Ukraine to fight Russian aggression days before the July 25 phone call. Zelensky told Trump that Ukraine was ready to buy more Javelin anti-tank missiles from the United States. The next 10 words prompted the extortion charge — “I would like you to do us a favor, though” — then Trump asked for the investigations of the Bidens. It is all in the text provided by the White House. They are Trump's own words.

    So, is it your opinion that Trump has to say, "President Zelensky, I have a quid pro quo proposal?"

    Does a gun toting robber asking for your money have to say, "This is a robbery," to convince you it is a robbery?

    Ukraine is completely dependent upon the U.S. The very last thing Zelensky would want to do is anger the unpredictable American President.

    How much badly needed military aid would Ukraine get from Congress if he told them the President tried to extort him?

    It is testimony in a Congressional hearing. Lying to Congress is a federal offense.
     
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    Funny that lying to congress didn't matter to Senate D's with Clinton's Impeachment.
     
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    Sirius Black said:

    Unfortunately the President asked specifically for an investigation into the younger Biden.


    Trump asking for foreign intervention in our Presidential election, Trump asking a foreign power to investigate an American citizen, who just happens to be Trump's main rival at present, "is within his right?"

    Are you serious? Do you really believe that? If so, where are you from?
     
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    Biden Jr. Isn't a political candidate, and even if he were, it wouldn't stop the POTUS from trying to end corruption.
     
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    In light of what I wrote, that post says it all.

    You are backing a loser, and you know it.
     
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    Wrong, Trump asked that the Ukraine president look into Joe Biden stopping the prosecution. He did not say to investigate Hunter Biden. No conditions were asserted whatsoever.

    "The other thing, there's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so
    whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great."
     
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    Bullshit.
    LOL I voted Johnson... The NOT pond scum candidate.

    Leftist Liberal Socialist ****Wits are motivating me to vote Trump in '20 THOUGH..

    Along with at LEAST 100 of my buddies who also didn't vote Trump in '16.

    You liberals are screwing yourselves!

    KEEP IT UP!
     
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    No chance to defend himself?? You're kidding aren't you? Trump has as much right to appear before the committee as anyone has. Where is he? Where are all his cabinet people who can say "no he didn't"? If you notice, none of the republicans are saying "no he didn't" because they know the facts prove he did. All they can do is attack the liberals. The problem the repubs are having is it's too obvious.
     
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    Even Hillary Clinton sat before the Select Committee and testified during the Benghazi investigation.
     
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    Trump's order to retreat in Syria betrayed a key ally who suffered 11,000 casualties in quelling the ISIS terrorist threat. Trump's retreat order facilitated the Turkish invasion of Syria and the attempt by the Turkish dictator, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, to annihilate the Kurds who he regards as terrorists.

    Trump enabled Edogan to kill hundreds of Kurds and causing thousands more to abandon their homes, becoming refugees.

    On a day when live, public House impeachment hearings began featuring two key witnesses against Trump, William B. Taylor Jr., acting ambassador to Ukraine, and his boss, George Kent, deputy assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs, provided devastating evidence of abuse of power, on a day when desperate Republicans are trying vainly to defend Trump from his own incriminating statements, guess who Trump invites to the White House.

    You got it, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

    It is an in your face gesture to Republicans from a Republican President.

    "Trump’s mistake in Syria is the unexpected ‘lottery win’ that further strengthened Moscow’s position in the Middle East and undermined America’s prestige as a rational political player and a reliable partner,” raved Mikhail Rostovsky in his article for the Russian newspaper Moskovsky Komsomolets.

    The Post reports, "Kremlin-funded Russian state television has openly sided with Trump throughout the Ukraine scandal and even during the events that led up to it. For months on end, Dmitry , the host of a Sunday news show called “Vesti Nedeli” (or “The Weekly News”) on state-controlled television station Rossiya-24, encouraged Trump’s push for a Ukrainian investigation of former vice president Joe Biden and his son, as well as the groundless theory that Ukraine — not Russia — interfered in U.S. presidential elections in 2016."

    Which side Trump is on is very difficult to determine in view of the support he is getting from hostile dictatorships.
     
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    Democrat rag Politico said the same, but I guess that doesn't fit the left's narrative now.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
     
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