Trump Tells Crowd Ivanka Has Created 14 Million New Jobs

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  1. AFM

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    How about watching the video with an emphasis on understanding.
     
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    We've all done that. We are waiting for you to join us. Please let us know when we can expect that. Tomorrow? Next week? Next month? Ever?
     
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    Too funny. It’s been fun but it’s obvious that all the group here is interested in is a “gotcha” and not the truth. Thanks for proving my point again.
     
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    You do know that the Communist Josef Stalin chained the term ' useful idiots'. He was referring to pro Soviet pro Russia Americans. So how sad that history repeats itself.
     
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    How about answering a simple question?
    Did Trump say Ivanka has created 14 million jobs or not?
    Yes or no?
    It's right there in the video you keep imploring everyone to watch.
     
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    By ''gotcha'' do you mean exposing yet another bare-faced lie by President Trump?
     
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    Watching the video = "gotcha"
    Got it. "Please watch the video but please oh please oh please don't talk about it"

    The video says Trump claims Ivanka created 14 million jobs. That's not "gotcha," that's "I can ****ing read."

    Those who can't ****ing read disagree, of course, because they either refuse to review what Trump said or are incapable of doing so.

    Literacy = Trump is wrong.

    Notice how no argument from your side can actually address even a single word of the actual video. Not. One. Word.

    Please quote me again while proving me right in that. All you have to do is quote me and respond without even bothering to address the words of the video . . . like you've done for pages and pages now, and like we both know you will continue doing in the future.
     
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    Define the term lie?

    Many types of lies, one with deceit/malice

    Little white lies, no harm no foul.
     
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    How would you describe Trump's 'lie' in the OP video?
     
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    He does embellish his numbers. Although he is producing results he needs to tone down his exaggerated tails so people have less to complain about. Clearly in this situation he was wrong.
     
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    Sounds to me like a level-headed response. Doesn't mean abandoning him entirely, just modulating his claims.
     
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    I am a trump supporter. I dont support everything he says but I do support his actions. Every politician does something dumb it's the voting record and history of results is what matters most. I dont know why Trump has to exaggerate quite frequently although just because he says it doesnt mean its fact now.
     
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    I am a Trump critic, but this makes sense to me. It is support without blind obedience. This seems like the rational support that anyone would provide for a politician + critical thought.
     
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    This is not the only situation that thus Boy was wrong. Manufacturing jobs are down Trump lied and said increasing.

    Mexico never paid for the Trump wall.
    Coal jobs never came back. So Trump's false claim went up in smoke.

    Trump claimed that a trade war is easily winnable. Wrong, another lie.
    Trump accused Ambassador Taylor and Mr. George Kent of being never Trumpers. Oh so wrong.

    Trump lied that the military had not received a raise in 10 years. Lie
    Trump lied that his innaugeration crowd was the biggest ever. Lie

    Trump said he won the popular vote.

    The lies are one after another.
     
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    Is your voting predicated on how well you personally benefit?
     
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    Ivanka has created many more multiples of lies than jobs. If she wasn't Fred Trump's granddaughter she wouldn't even have a job.
     
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    So you support letting the Kurds die as a result of Trimp's betrayal.
     
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    Ok folks let's do the numbers, basic math. The lie is that Ivanka created 14,000,000. The excuse is that there were 324 companies at the meeting who had the 14,000,000 increase in jobs. If that was true that means each company created 43,210 jobs. The average number of employees of the Fortune 500 companies 52,810.

    So Trump is lying that the average Fortune 500 company almost doubled the number of their employees.

    Does anyone believe that something that miraculous would not have been noticed?
     
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    Amazing display.
     
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    Keep it under your hat.
     
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    Being able to have a conversation across party lines or just between opposing view points is key. No need for the division among political groups like today. I'm a proponent on people attacking trump to have the same fierce outlook on the group that they support. I realized a few years ago we can get carried away and only believe one side has the ability to be right. If you follow anyone with blind obedience it's probably a bad situation.

    Blindly following anyone is asking for trouble.
     
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    All politicians are liars. Trump is a politician.
     
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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/B88C102C-103D-11E9-8D5F-533B6E1E86EF
    Manufacturing jobs

    Mexico is using there armed forces and are attempting to relieve the problem very good start.
    Trump has done more to help out the coal industry than many presidents that came before him.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/0da01384-92b0-11e9-aea1-2b1d33ac3271

    Trade wars.
    China isnt the only trade war and easy is a relative term. I'm happy something's being done about it.

    Military pay. It was the largest military pay raise in 10 years. I see that as a gaffe.

    Inaguration size by the numbers he was clearly wrong.

    Popular vote. I see a lot of possible problems in our voting and how easily it is to manipulate it but by the numbers the government posted Hillary won the popular vote.

    I can quote several "lies" from many politicians. All front runners in the democratic primary ring a bell.
     
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    I dont follow the war enough. It's an illegal war to begin with so withdrawing isnt a problem with me.
     
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    You know the totality of what Trump said but you dishonestly distort his meaning. There is no honesty on the left anymore. This thread is a great example of that.
     

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