Is a Trumps base fracturing?

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  1. TheGreatSatan

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    It is very common for Democrats to deny being Democrats to lend their post credibility. It's really stupid though. It would be like me denying to be a Republican.
     
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    I've tried to engage you on the issues. It doesn't seem possible.
     
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    But bro, there "SHOULD" come a point in peoples lives when they recognize bullshit! I personally entertain the ideology that I can easily vote either way or if needed change my party affiliation. At this current juncture in my political life I simply don't see eye to eye with leftist policies, I'm definitely not married to Trump but I rather like his or YOU COULD say the countries economic reaction to his presidency.. If I see a leftist that promotes the same hard nosed approach to independence, wealth and job opportunity then I will certainly entertain that person also regardless of party!
     
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    I doubt they will vote at all because they willl be too busy egging each other on on 8chan. Those that can read at least
     
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    And your evidence that they were ever part of the base and not just another leftist false flag operation and exist in larger numbers than were present at that one meeting is what?
     
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    I voted for him because of his border stance.
     
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    Yeah, you are a single entity voter at best, your myopic interest controls your reasoning process.
     
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    Like I posted
    when you get enough lumps you'll get there ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
  9. Bowerbird

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    You have another explanation as to why Don Jr got booed off stage?

    And before you say “leftist plant” This prime specimen of humanity was one of the groypers

    upload_2019-11-15_0-56-30.jpeg

    Though to be honest I am not sure ANY group wants to “own” him :p
     
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    Actually those without a working brain still believe Schiff for brains even when he lied to them.
     
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    Hang your hat on that.
     
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  12. Bowerbird

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    From my reading of the situation what they are doing is examining every political figure to see where they fit as “true” republicans
     
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    The picture all but guarantees a false flag. It's obviously some trying to pretend to be something he truthfully doesn't knows anything about.
     
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    Easy... When you have MORE democrats and moderate democrats entering the primary race at such a late date, they know that those independents are now starting to waiver on the existing pool. The Bloomberg understands fully that there is a shift in independent voters and is trying to monopolize.
     
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    Quick, call Ukraine, they're the only ones who can help us.
     
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    You would think after a while, most people in this nation would clearly see the double standards and be getting beyond fed up with what has become the calling card of the leftist in Washington. It really doesn’t matter what the issue is, the leftist keeps demonstrating double standards and on many occasions, are engaging in flat out unethical and immoral conduct because they believe themselves to be untouchable and above the law.

    We have seen the leftist blatant bias with the favoritism garnered to illegals, while citizens are having their rights attacked and infringed upon. We have seen the leftist bias against law abiding citizens who won’t tow their agenda line, against our nations border security agents, against conservative women, pushing the racism narrative against citizens of this nation who reject the leftist agenda, we have seen the leftist willfully engaging in criminal conduct and corruption, we have seen that sickening bias displayed in full form in the leftist media, in how Trump is treated versus how Obama or leftist elected officials are treated and list goes on and on.

    The leftist keeps trying to peddle how Trump lied about this or lied about that, when in fact he is not the one doing the vast majority of lying. The leftist collective consortium has lied time and time again and they keep getting caught, but apparently their lies are just an oversight while their interpretation of Trumps comments is something different altogether. These people have gone so far into la-la land, they are now trying to peddle that second and third hand information, is more relevant than factual verifiable evidence. This lying is rampant within the ranks of the leftist consortium and can be found in every aspect of it including the media, in every single aspect of the leftist party and demonstrated by the elites who support them.

    The new “let’s get Trump” angle, is the Schiff show that is trying to peddle the same failed scam using a different set of clothes and it is all being orchestrated by Pelosi and Schiff. This is the same shifty Schiff, who lied about leaking information to CNN and got caught, the same Schiff who lied about the Mueller investigation, saying the panel was hiring more staffing resources to expand the Russian investigation, when those people had nothing to do with the investigation. He lied during the entire two-year investigation saying he had evidence that showed Trump colluded with Russia, but can’t seem to present a single piece of it. He lied while trying to stop declassified documents from being released, avowing there were major national security concerns and then we find out there was no national security issues at all, but there were some DNC issues shifty Schiff was trying to keep on the low down.

    He lied about his association with the so-called whistle blower and his interaction with them. Now that a connection has been made between him and the so-called whistle blower, Shifty doesn’t want the so-called whistle blower to be brought in for questioning. Shifty with Pelosi’s blessing, has appointed himself the prosecutor, judge and jury in his little kangaroo court proceedings, trying to convict Trump on something, anything just because the leftists don’t like him and know they can’t beat him in 2020. Schiff like others has become a disgrace to his party and the office he holds. But what pencil neck can’t seem to understand, if the republicans take control of the house in 20202, he will be called to testify under oath as will his little so-called whistle blower, he and his office personally coached. Pelosi and Schiff have now set a precedence.

    And of course, we have to talk about Nancy. For a little background reminder let’s review Nancy’s track record. We all witnessed time and time again, Pelosi swearing mayhem and destruction will occur every time Trump wants to do something and looks for any opportunity to disagree with Trump, no matter the subject. Let’s not forget, she stated after Trump correctly called MS 13 gang members animals; “Does he not believe in the spark of divinity, the dignity and worth of every person? Calling people animals is not a good thing.” Really Nancy, you think rapist and murders who prefer to cut people up so it takes longer to die, are somehow divine?

    She also lied in the name of campaign funding and did it in an email she sent out about Trump firing Mueller, which was a flat out lie and nothing but another unethical example of how corrupt this woman is. Nancy like the rest of her ilk, just keeps exposing herself with her lies and is also exposing the dishonesty of the party she belongs to. The woman could actually accomplish something of importance by bringing the UMCA up for a vote, but apparently the leftists don’t seem concerned with doing anything beneficial for the nation.

    More recently Nancy has lied about the Schiff show, claiming it is not an impeachment hearing, when that was exactly the intent of the entire sham. She lied when she stated “We have not made any decision to impeach,”. She lied when she stated “The facts drove the timing and the decision,” now that she is onboard with impeachment and she lied like a rug when stating this was all about wanting to protect the Constitution. These people have been wiping their feet on the Constitution for three years now.

    It has become painfully obvious; the leftists view their blatant lies as something else, which only further supports the notion they are morally vacant and ethically weak. Fast forward to today and they are once again demonstrating their double standards where Ukraine is concerned, trying to use hearsay and fake whistle blower innuendoes against Trump, while they ignore factual evidence exposing how their own party was engaged in, via Biden, exactly what they want to accuse Trump of.

    The leftists do not want to talk about their double standards, talk about their lies, nor will they apply the same scrutiny to members of their party caught in corruption. The response is always the same, divert to something Trump did and now it’s Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine and the quid pro quo nonsense. Evidently, they don’t see Biden flat out demonstrating this quid pro quo on tape, to be the same as the quid pro quo they keep trying to pretend Trump engaged in. Nor do they see the letter sent by their own party, threatening the loss of democrat support, unless Ukraine continued with specified investigation, as a quid pro quo problem.

    They keep peddling the same baseless lie against Trump, even after the president of Ukraine stated it didn’t happen and the full transcripts of the call were released. Their fallback plan was to usher in some fake whistle blowers and avow their second and third hand information, was far more relevant and of serious concern, than the released transcripts and the testimony of the president they accuse Trump of pressuring. All of this nonsense is to cover up their desperate efforts, to steer attention away from their involvement in Ukraine that is threatening to turn on all of them and expose “their corrupt roles” in that country, which just happens to include some of their own family members.

    Example after example of the blatant dishonesty and double standards, can be attributed to the career leftist hacks and their media peeps, who have claimed Trump is everything under the sun but a true patriot, while they ignore their own treasonous actions and behaviors. The leftist know they don’t have a platform to run on in 2020, because they hedged their bet on their own arrogance in believing they could impeach Trump on something, anything and take back the reins of power. Problem for them is they continue to fail miserably and continue to uncover the very things they have tried to hide.

    Let me state this again, there is no longer any misconception about what the leftist have become. There is no longer any misconception of what they are trying to do and why. They have all been fully exposed and they have done the vast majority of that exposure themselves. The citizens of this nation now know exactly what kind of people the leftists are, because their criminal and corrupt nature has been exposed along with their blatant disregard for our Constitution and the rights of the American citizens.

    All across this nation the rumblings of discontent can be heard and those rumblings are not directed at Trump or his presidency. Those rumblings are focused on the unethical, immoral and unacceptable behavior of powerful politicians who have betrayed their oaths of office and betrayed the very people who trusted them.
     
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    Allow me to disabuse you of the notion the Orange Fraud possesses any such ideological core values. He is all about what works for him. In this case, getting a tax cut passed based on the promise of it more than paying for itself. In reality it has instead caused massive deficit spending, all in order to enhance his popularity. If you are in the business of voting for the church of what's happening now, and not giving a damn that these deficits are unsustainable, we are at odds. Because the "independence, wealth and job opportunities" of today are the recession, unemployment, and government debt downgrades of tomorrow.
     
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    If you google “groyper” there is plenty of information about them

    Honestly you would think the right would be delighted to see a far right racist fringe break away
     
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    IOW's nothing of any substance!

    Got it!

    Bloomberg is a BILLIONAIRE and he is AFRAID of Warren.
     
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    Unlikely but they can no longer be counted upon to vote FOR your BLOTUS in 2020.

    How much of his base can your BLOTUS afford to stay at home?
     
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    What size is "too big"?

    Have you ever compared the size of actual communist governments to western governments?

    Can you demonstrate that there is a correlation between size and ideology?

    Or is this just more asinine rightwing disinformation pablum without any basis factual reality?
     
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    :applause:

    Great article that explained both the zealotry and methodology of the Groypers and Nickers. The sad part is that these are YOUNG racists as opposed to the Boomer racists who are reaching their Sell By dates. The good part is that they seem to be a much smaller percentage of their generation than the Boomers.

    While there is a paucity of data to draw any definitive conclusions what data we do have can give us some insight.

    https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today 5-y&geo=US&q=/g/11dxr0rnh2,Groyper

    The chart of Google Trends establishes that Kirk has been trending from early 2017 and then spiking just before the 2018 midterm election. OTOH Groypers are only just starting to trend by leveraging Kirk.

    Kirk is an attempt to garner young moderate conservatives and while it is having a modicum of "success" it is on a par with the attempt to garner support among suburban women who are abandoning the BLOTUS.

    The Groypers/Nickers are motivated by their hatred of minorities and thus a fringe element that is vocal beyond their numbers thus giving a false impression of their actual size. They would do better to align themselves with the aging like minded Boomers.

    The Groypers/Nickers simply do not have the numbers to "primary" GOP candidates at the present. Given that Millennials are the LEAST racist generation to date I don't see much room for the Groypers to "grow". This is a positive sign for the future of America IMO.
     
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    The more liberal media spread lies the stronger Trump's base gets. This latest disgraceful act by left activists, dressing up as Trump supporters, is just another example how depraved some people on the left have become.

    By the way, this is just going to get all independent minded Americans behind Trump. No one likes dirty Brennan's schemes.

    One America News: John Brennan Hand-Picked Whistleblower For White House

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...and-picked_whistleblower_for_white_house.html
     
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    That is right - completely ignore the thread title and try to inject something completely different
     
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