But... you can't hunt with an AR!!

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  1. TOG 6

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    Hunting rifles have been used by the military, and military rifles have been used for hunting, since the creation of the rifled barrel.
    Why do you think there's a point here?
     
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    Do you know the difference between clip and magazine?
    Hint: Clips are used to feed a magazine.

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    If I were shooting hogs I would like to have a good pistol along with my rifle. Like a 45 cal 1911. Or anything that packed a punch. Ya see in that situation I be scared of hogs.
     
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    Bolt action centerfire files normally have a magazine beneath the bolt, forward of the trigger. Capacities from three to twenty rounds depending upon the cartridge and purpose and the shooter's preferences. All magazine capacities are standard, there is no such thing as high or low capacity. Those that hold more are normally removable. Although there have been bolt actions with 20 round fixed magazines extending below the stock.

    The "Stripper Clip" is a device used to hold cartridges in line for inserting into a magazine all at once. Used on both fixed and removable magazines. The term "Clip" is the slang, the short form. Unfortunately many have been confused by these terms over the years to the point that getting everyone to use the correct language is a losing battle.

    Such is life.
     
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    I agree, but I think an AR15 is not a suitable training rifle for kids.
    Here are some that are more suitable for children: https://www.wideopenspaces.com/best-youth-hunting-rifles-and-shotguns/

    ^^ These guns are also much cheaper than the AR.
    And of course, you can also go hunting with them.
     
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    Specifically: Why?
     
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    Sure. One holds a handful of bullets, and the other holds a handful of...of...bullets?
    You all need to lighten up and smile a bit. I've been around guns all my life. I don't hunt anymore, but I've done my share of it.
     
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    An AR-15 is just too big and too heavy for children.



    She has fun. But without the table, barrel support and shooting instructor the girl would be not so happy. :D
     
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    For a 10 yr old? 12? 14? 16?
    In .22LR? 9mm?
     
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    I think a 14-year-old trained shooter is probably able to handle an AR-15. But before this age, it's rather difficult.

    Anyway, anyone under 18 should only be allowed to shoot under the supervision of an adult who knows firearms.
     
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    My kids didn't have an issue.
     
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    Some do, but most just have magazines--either detachable or built-in. The WWI era military bolt-actions use clips that feed into magazines. The only kind that are single shot are intended for target shooting.
     
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    How old were they when they could shoot an AR-15 without any aid?
     
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    Exactly. Most of the guns on the market are derivatives of military weapons.
     
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    I had them shooting junior matches at Camp Perry when they were 12.
     
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    Well, it's a derivative of the AR-10, which was developed in response to a request by the U.S. military for a replacement for the M-1, although it wasn't a "command" request, it was the military asking for rifles developed to certain specification. Armalite chose to develop it.

    What's your point? Most firearms in use today are derivatives of weapons used by the U.S. or other Country's militaries. The common bolt-action rifle is a derivative of the Mauser that was used by the Germans in two World Wars. The lever-action rifle was developed in the 1860s for military use.
     
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    Okay, but what rifles did they use?
     
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    AR carbines. 6-position stocks. 5.56
     
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    You said it bro: Most firearms were initially designed to kill enemies on the battlefield.
     
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    Hunting rifles have been used by the military, and military rifles have been used for hunting, since the creation of the rifled barrel.
    Why do you think there's a point here?
     
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    But this is not a fully fledged AR-15, in case of weight, length, and firepower. Am I right?
     
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    It's same length, weight and "firepower" as the M4 carbine.
     
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    I think the difference is in use. Soldiers in war place different demands on a rifle than a hunter.
     
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    Ok... so?
     
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    Uh-huh. Ever been hunting for feral hogs?
     

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