But... you can't hunt with an AR!!

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  1. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Such as?
     
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    A hunter has only one target, which he should hit accurately with one shot.
    A soldier in combat often shoots at many enemies at the same time and has little time to aim. This results in many differences in gun design. For example, hunters make single shots, while soldiers prefer fire bursts.
     
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    All of which has to do with what?
    Hunting rifles have been used by the military, and military rifles have been used for hunting, since the creation of the rifled barrel.
     
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    Define fully fledged AR-15. The gun mentioned is a carbine version, meaning shorter-barrel (16-18", vs. 20" for the Rifle), but weight isn't much different, and firepower is identical to most other AR-15.

    AR-15s are variable. They are modular rifles, and can be changed up in many different ways.
     
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    Indeed. Both of these are ARs (but only one is an 'assault weapon')

    AWB2.jpg .
     
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    None of which does anything to actually address the question as it was presented. Try again.

    Pray tell, exactly what makes a specific firearm designed to kill people, as opposed to any other task?
     
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    No, but I have raised several hogs. Bruno was 350 pounds when we took him to the butcher. Some took all day just to get on the truck.
     
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    According to your wording, there's obviously a difference between military rifles and hunting rifles. :)
     
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    The left one is a "Baby-AR" huh?
     
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    They're both ARs.
     
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    Not always - in fact, only sometimes.
     
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    I think some 100 years ago service rifles and hunting rifles were the same.
    This is not the case anymore.
     
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    Meat at the supermarket is not from a killed animal?
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Have a big pissed feral hog decide to charge you and you might wish for something a bit more than a .45 acp from a pistol... shooting a standing farm raised hog is bit different than a feral hog coming head on.
     
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    So, you know what you are talking about, eh?
     
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    What makes you think that, and how is that relevant?
     
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    If I'm wrong, I would be grateful if you rectify me. :)
     
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    Weapon technology continues to evolve. There's a clear distinction today between hunting rifles and assault rifles. This topic shows that.
     
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    No... I mean the 100yrs ago quip.
    And, of course, the term isn't "service rifles". but "military rifles".
    And, the topic shoes that military rifles are also hunting rifles.
     
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    There is a clear distinction. Per the U.S. Army definition, assault rifles are selective fire (meaning capable of either semi or full auto), and are illegal except in rare cases. Hunting rifles, such as the one on the OP, are legal, as they are semi-auto only.
     
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    Why not do a bit of history and research on the AR15, the adult ‘LEGO’ version of a rifle/pistol rather than listen to those that know only the GCA mantras?
    The AR (Armalight) is a specific semi auto design, where the lowered receiver is considered the transferable, serial numbered, weapon by the Feds that can be mated with many stock designs, a large range upper receivers chambered for cartridge offerings ranging from .22 cal LR to .50 AE, with many barrel lengths, stock designs, many sighting devices, and other accessories. The AR platform is one of the most versatile of any rifle manufactured which is one of the reasons it is popular.
    I have one, along with three uppers (20 second swap) chambered in .223/5.56, 6.8 Grendel, and .458 SOCOM, each with different barrel lengths, rifling twists, and sighting devices that provide me with options to take any game in N.America, and I have a conversion device that allows me to shoot .22 LR. I used to hunt for a living in college, and had around 60 guns in various chambering for different uses. I now, only have remaining, my AR kit and a couple shotguns, a few historic value pieces, and my pistol collection.
    The .223/5.56 chambering (considered a varmint cartridge) used primarily by versions used by the military is generally prohibited for use for hunting deer in most US states because it is considered too anemic for humane kills. But, it’s the cartridge that is prohibited, not the platform. The .223/5.56 would be il advised for defense against bear in the AK despite options for standard magazine capacity (25-30) rnds, where the .458, with the same exact mag, loaded with 10 rnds, can take any size game.
    BTW...the following looks like an AR 15, eh?
    upload_2019-11-15_15-27-28.jpeg
    Well, the lower is. However the upper is a straight pull Lantac bolt action. Lantac sells simple conversion kits. So does a company called, Kali-Key. An still another sells a pump action upper.
    So, what you think you might know...
    Yep, the AR design, the LEGO platform kit for guns. What, then, makes an AR an assault weapon?
     
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    It's clear you know nothing about combat.

    See reply above.
     
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    Once again incorrect.
     
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    My neighbors hunt feral hogs, they flush them with dogs and shoot them from 8 feet up on a swamp buggy, where the hog cannot get to them as they are very dangerous animals and don't give up easy.
     
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    You clearly don't know what a assault rifle is do you?
     

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