Trump associate Roger Stone found guilty of lies that protected Trump

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    That is what Trump is doing with the private phone.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So totally night and day but I don’t expect much.
     
  3. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Only to a Trump supporter.
     
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    Throw him in Jail if he lied but my issue is the shifting standards for when lying to congress is applicable. Also congress can lie about the people testifying, why are they above reproach? If Stone said he was just parodying a criminal would he have been fine?
     
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  5. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ues, normal people with a brain.
     
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    You mean like the Obama head of the CIA that spied on its own oversight committee? Or clapper lying to congress?

    They just didnt prosecute Obama people.

    Obama's doj didnt prosecute the big bankers for the 08 crash nor the bankers who laundered drug cartel money. So you ignore some stuff here. Reminds me of msm.
     
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    That’s a pretty weak argument lol
    Did Cochran lie when he said if it doesn’t fit you must acquit?
     
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    What do you mean "half as many"? They likely had twice as many. Their entire administration was corrupt, as is the DC swamp that still protects them to this day.
     
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  9. TurnerAshby

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    How's it weak to say lying to congress seems to be a shifting standard and consistent application of the law is pretty vital for public confidence.

    Was it Brennan who said the NSA wasn't collecting our data?

    Stone lied throw him away but apply to law consistently. Also 20 years??? Again have you ever watched a politician lie about a person who's testifying? Some lies are better than others? Seems like a way to get real blurred lines
     
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    I’m sorry but your fantasies are not criminal convictions lol
     
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    What was Brennan’s other choice? Expose a classified program in open court?
    The house members aren’t under oath and Stone won’t get 20 years.
     
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    All 12 jury members are part of the “swamp”?

    :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Bill Barr also as he can insist the stop the prosecution if it doesn’t have merit
     
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    Say the matter is classified and you'll talk about about it in close door session.

    My argument isnt that Stone shouldn't be in jail fyi its about the Shakey application of this law
     
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    I'd guess 3 to 5.
     
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    According to Comey, "No reasonable prosecutor would prosecute" a Democrat (like Hillary). Which is another way of saying no Democrat would ever be prosecuted.
     
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    I suspect that your definition of "evidence" is very flexible, depending upon whose ox is being gored.
     
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    Cool.

    As it should be.

    I don't see the problem.

    Sounds Good. :salute:
     
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    What bothers me is the fact that everyone that lies to congress does not get prosecuted. Only certain people. Obama's two intel heads didn't even lose their jobs! Smells like some 3rd world shithole banana republic if not worse.

    Also anyone who dances with glee when stone gets time but does not get upset when their own party lies or commits crimes with no prosecution has something wrong with their compass.

    I can think of numerous adjectives to describe such people but will withhold them.

    Suffice to say visiting a forum demands a hot shower once you log out. And that is such a pity.
     
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    You always try to put words in peoples mouths instead of discussing the topic.
     
  21. The Mello Guy

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    And he was right. Trumps DOJ agreed with him lol
     
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    Sadly yes!
     
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    With Hillary on his backside would make him a double arse whole.. .
     
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    Don't take that deal you will go bankrupt...
     
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    It was pretty sneaky of Obama to get W to hire all those people just to get Trump. :)
     
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