Just an FYI, there are only a handful of states that don't allow the .223/5.56 for deer. I will admit, law or not, I wouldn't use one on big midwest deer, but here in Florida, I'd have no problem with it (and they are legal to hunt deer with here). The only states I can find for sure that don't allow .223/5.56 for deer are Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Iowa, Massachusetts, Virginia, Ohio, New Jersey, Washington, and West Virginia. I know GA, AL and FL (the states I've lived in and paid taxes in as an adult) allow it.
Not my job you got it incorrect go get educated about the subject and come back when you can post an informed comment, and not just rattling off the GCA propaganda.
Ok, acknowledged. I’ve have lived in Colorado, Illinois, Ohio and Wisconsin. The first three prohibited it. Wisconsin predated my AR days and I probably was recalling rules prohibiting rimfire. I have taken a lot of deer, many with black powder (all with .50), and one with a .44 mag pistol, and have always had a personal policy of never taking a shot where I couldn’t guarantee a clean, humane kill (passed on more shots than I can count) didn’t consider varmint rounds so suited. But, when in Wisconsin it was well noted poachers used a spot light and .22 cal., so it can obviously be done. As an aside question, deer somewhat smaller in Fl?
Some States allow hunting with an AR and the AR-15 is a good choice for hunting varmints. So to claim an AR is not for hunting all depends upon the State one resides and what is being hunted. Also there are Assault Rifles that use heavier rounds such as a 7.62 mm. https://info.stagarms.com/blog/bid/381895/Which-AR-15-Can-You-Hunt-With https://www.nssf.org/msr/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2018/02/15/4-basic-questions-about-the-ar-15/
Claims that the AR-15 is a poor choice for teaching children are just plain silly and display an ignorance of the appealing factors in the design. The very reasons why the gun is popular make it suitable for training children and adults of small stature. It absorbs recoil in it's action, it is light in weight, there are .22LR versions. Ammunition is inexpensive. One of my AR's weighs 5.5 pounds! Of course my teaching method is to instruct in multiple firearm types whether a child will be using them or not. Part of safety training around guns is to understand their workings, their design features and controls. This is done with no ammunition in the room at all. When I began teaching my young stepdaughter she was under ten years old. Long before she ever handled ammunition or fired a gun she had experienced taking apart and putting back together bolt action and semi-automatic rifles. She had experienced basic disassembly of pistols and revolvers. One of the points of training is to remove the mystery.by allowing hands-on learning in a safe and supervised way, using the fascination of taking the thing apart and putting it back together. My daughter eventually joined ROTC, and needed an official drill rifle for practice. I found a used one, with is a non-working model of the 1903 Springfield. To emphasize the point, I completed disassembled used trainer I found, cleaned it (really dirty) and then wrapped up the parts for Christmas, along with th etool needed to put it back together. Thus she had the fun of getting the present and the deeper learning of hands-on building the thing. Last pint, while AR-15's are suitable for children to learn on and enjoy shooting, it certainly does not mean they are limited to that. I also bought a Stevens single shot bolt action in .22 S/L/LR. She learned on that gun too. Also on my Ruger American Rimfire in .22WMR. And on my H&R 649 .22 revolver and my Harrington & Richardson Sportsman breaktop in .22. At some point she's practiced with everything to to and including the .306 in a rifle and .45ACP in a handgun. The moral of the story is that the AR-15 is suitable as many guns are suitable. Some of the reasons it is suitable are especially so for young people.
Iowa is a slug state. The only rifle cartridge that you can use north of the bottom two tiers of counties is straight walled cartridges.
Never shot a farm raised hog. We had to deliver them alive. The butcher or the auction will not take injured or sick animals. Ever try to move a hog when he doesn't want to move? It gives meaning to pig headed. We were just homestead farmers and only had a couple of hogs at once. Except for babies.
My apologies, I was on the run and incorrectly read you post as you suggesting hunting with an AR was il conceived. A bit of dyslexia and not reading thoroughly on my part. I am not without my inequities.
And they make an AR for that. https://winchester.com/350-Legend https://www.ruger.com/products/ar556MPR/specSheets/8532.html https://cmmginc.com/product/rifle-resolute-100-mk4-350-legend/
Pat to the back for educating your daughter. I was educated early and did the same with my girls. By age 13 they both had their own Anshultz .22s and could hit targets (aspirin tabs) with iron sights at distances I could see them. One is married to a cop and both have their own collections, though the younger of the two has to have everything in pink; ever see a pink outfitted AR15?
In some states (MD the last time I hunted there) bans the use of any .22 cal cartridge (including the .223 and 5.56mm x 45) for large game (deer) because they don't have the necessary killing power for a clean kill.
Depends on the definition. Some states require a rifle to have three items to consider it an assault rifle, some two. They look for collapsible stock, pistol grip, removable mag, bayonet lug, flash suppressor.
I live in Oregon, and there isn't much opportunity here either. So ... we're paying for flights to and from a Texas hunting ranch and the ranch's fee. It includes lodging and meals at the ranch, and a guide. Honestly, this will be less like hunting and more like ambushing, as we will be in blinds within shooting distance of bait. So it's pretty expensive, but hey, ya can't take it with you, right?
I know a competition shooter, whose 12 year old son shoots a standard AR (5.56) at 1,000 yards- and does very well. That speaks to the accuracy; it's not sloppy. That is of course well beyond the considered range of that particular cartridge, and is target rather than hunting- but that is a limit of the cartridge choice. The variety of calibers the AR can be built in is so broad, (well over 30) that you are right.
Ohio allows deer hunting with straight-walled rounds as well - so, it is legal to hunt with an AR on 450 Bushmaster or 350 Legend.
1000yds is right on the outer edge of the 5.56-AR envelope, even with 80-90gr bullets -- I know a handful of people who shoot one well at 1000, but it isn't easy. An AR in 224 Valkyrie is far more comfortable.
@Golem claims the manufacture states it's design is for "assaulting humans" yet cant find any credible evidence, lies are kinda funny, that way.
