It Sure Looks Like Marie Yovanovitch Committed Perjury in Her Testimony

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  1. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You sound like Bob Haldeman right before he got sent up the river. Nothingburger my ass.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Democrats wish they will convert the USA to an operation resembling what Venezuela has.
     
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    Your chances to convict are nothing. A true nothingburger.
     
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    Nancy Pelosi would have Schiff for Brains hung in the public square.
     
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    What should he get if he actually did extort Zelensky to investigate the Bidens, and to publicly announce those investigations?
     
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    You need almost 20 Republicans to vote for removal in the Senate, you got maybe 4.
     
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    What do you call this?
     
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    That is a big bunch of crap. Democrats have always been good loyal Americans just like the GOP was before they became obsessed with Trump who is a lying thieving sociopath. Once we get rid of him maybe the Republican faithful will wake up and return to sanity. Otherwise they will be relegated to the ash heap of history.
     
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    On the basis of what, besides absurd hyperbole?
     
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    We are impeaching the bogus witnesses, that IS stand up for Trump. The best defense is a good offense. The charges are a joke and so are Pelosi and Schiff for Brains.
     
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    That’s what the Nixonites were saying at this point in the Watergate hearings. It’s early old timer. With what just happened to Stone and Guiliani and Trumps association with those two Russian Mob thugs, a lot of stuff could come spewing forth in the coming months. Don’t get to cocky.
     
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    You'll get rid of him in 2024. Till then expect a real conservative to take Ruthie's place on the SCOTUS.
     
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    You need to look at her testimony.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    On the basis of getting most of their political views by listening to lying scumbags like Hannity, Levin and whacky conspiracy blogs.
     
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    Quote the words she said that are perjurious? I heard her testimony live.
     
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    Do you want the US to turn into Venezuela?

    I dont even know how that would be possible, but I don't. I'd prefer that we return to a nation of laws, and not of cults.
     
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    As did I. PP's post sounded like more screaming nonsense in search of facts then something based upon reality.
     
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    The truth is, nobody other than the far left cares anything about what this women had to say.

    The far left could care less about her also, they just act like they care to hurt Trump.

    Trump had the right to fire her for not brushing her teeth.

    Look at the line of people who lied about Kavanaugh under oath. If they were not prosecuted, they sure are not going to go after the former ambassador.
     
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    Extortion, plain and simple. Extortion. Now..... moving on:

    What should Trump get if he actually did extort Zelensky to investigate the Bidens, and to publicly announce those investigations?
     
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    He's in serious trouble...as in conspiracy trouble. This was an effort to prove the Crowdstrike Conspiracy theory, in order to reverse the Mueller report conclusion on Russian interference in the 2016 election. Such a reversal would give public support to pardoning Manafort, Stone and others, as well as the lifting of our sanctions against the Russians. If he failed to do that, people would talk and turn state's evidence to, if not indict him, remove him from office to face indictments.
    And, he had only a small "window of opportunity" to pressure the new Ukrainian President into supplying him with the "evidence" to do so. Biden and his son were the frosting on the cake...a bonus, with which to divert Democratic attention and create the argument that it was all "political."
    The window of opportunity ran roughly from the time our Ukrainian Ambassador was fired, until the end of the U.S. government's fiscal year. She would have exposed the conspiracy had she been there, because the Ukrainians would have come to her for an explanation of the aid hold-up. They had to remove her and put Soudland (the EU ambassador in as essentially person running our policy to Ukraine, along with Giuliani). And, they had to force the "deal" before the State Department pros uncovered the plot and before the end of the fiscal year, when they would have to explain to Congress why they'd withheld the aid.
    IOW, they knew that the aid couldn't be withheld permanently, but counted on making the new President think so. That was the reason for the insistence on a public statement committing the Ukraine to the investigations BEFORE they would be forced to release it by September 30th. They knew that once committed, he could not break away from his commitment, and they would have to release the aid...public commitment or no such commitment by the end of the fiscal year.
     
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    These people just parrot Fox News propaganda almost word for word. They are self admitted Hannitized Ditto-Heads. Roger Ailes did a great job indoctrinating these guys.
     
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    Come to think of this, all the Democrats have is a rough conspiracy theory.

    At this stage, strange as it still is, in a court of law, there is no proven case that the Russians and Trump were a team. Striped back Schiff alleged he has proof. But thus far has not proven his case.

    I marvel as the "experts here" who simply have not studied the case much at all if any of it.

    We actually come up short in spending millions of dollars annually that is so called spent by Congress. Testimony in the Schiff dog and pony show confirms that.

    Schiff is alleging a connection of said aid to Biden. But Trump made no such conditions. Thus far Schiff has yet to prove it.
     
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    I enjoy FOX for a few things.
    1. Most of the opinion programs include a Democrat representing the Democrats along with a Republican representing Republican views. We get what I consider a fair and balanced program. Hannity is just one on FOX. FOX allows all sides. Contrast that to MSNBC and even CNN and there they constantly berate Trump and feature democrat talking heads.
    2. Actual news. Yes, Democrats deny it but FOX does present programs with pure news.
     
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    Yovonavich is obviously a good person and has been a great asset to our country for almost 4 decades. The way these people are sliming her is disgusting. Hopefully the American people are paying attention to the proceedings at hand and enough will be awakened to the fact that Trump, his associates and his media lackeys are a bunch of thieving hucksters.
     
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