I fully believe President Trump intended to force Ukraine to find dirt on Biden for military aid.

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  1. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    I've been in court enough times to know that attacking the source of evidence and the possible biases of the people presenting it is a very common tactic.
     
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    Good. I feel the same way about Clinton as well. All he really did was lie about a sexual escapade. Not a good thing but not impeachable either.
     
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    pretty much every circumstance is somewhat different is it not? That is why it is of limited value to say “yeah but “A” did not do what “B” did
     
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    It was part of the deal to get them to stop their nuclear weapons program that Trump reneged on.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They returned our prisoners in 81, we kept their money for 36 years after, then returned it as part of a nuclear deal.
     
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Them releasing their captives doesn't make it any less an act of war in the first place.
     
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    But sexually abusing a female intern. That **** gets your life ruined now. That’s rape & assault right there. Democrats say so.
     
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    So your two litigating arguments are based on a claim and an explanation? I guess that's just as strong as hearsay. Should we start calling you Mrs Schiff or Mr Pelosi?
     
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    I have no reason to think that the event was nothing other than and encounter between consenting adults. I don't think that is illegal. Bad idea for a president to do that? You bet. But they impeached him not for the encounter but because he lied about it. Also wrong and illegal but not even close to being impeachable. It was just as political and partisan as the current one.
     
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    True. It was the lie about the act and not the act. Was it as partisan as this? Not exactly. Democrats blew a gasket when Trump slept with someone when he was a private citizen. They used that act as reason he should be impeached. So I doubt their fake outrage.
     

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