who will be the first republican to accept the facts??

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  1. ToddWB

    ToddWB Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://spectator.org/did-you-know-this-about-marie-yovanovitch/ https://spectator.org/did-you-know-this-about-marie-yovanovitch/ An Obama holdover with anti-Trump biases of long standing.
    . On the Sean Hannity show of March 20, 2019, former U.S. Attorney Joe diGenova told his host,

    But, Sean, here’s the thing that’s really changing, now we know that there [sic] not was there a Russian collusion through Fusion GPS and through the MI-6 guy and all of that. But now, we know that Ukrainian officials deeply involved in trying to help Hillary Clinton through this and we also now know that the current United States ambassador, Marie Yovanovitch, has badmouth[ed] the president of the United States to Ukrainian officials and has told them not to listen or worry about Trump policy because he is going to be impeached. This woman needs to be called home to the United States for consultation.

    (Remember: Volodymyr Zelensky was not even elected Ukraine’s president until April 21, 2019. Yovanovitch was called home two weeks later, on May 6. The so-called “whistleblower phone call” was July 25, 2019.)In a Washington Times account on April 18, 2019, Edward Lozansky likewise wrote of “U.S. Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch’s bad-mouthing of the president to Ukrainian officials.”
     
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    If he Trump is exonerated from this extortion case will you come out say hes not a criminal? Considering his criminal record wasnt bad enough to not get elected president he doesnt seem very criminalist to me. If this turns out with more evidence of wrong doing than the russian collusion I'll give it to you but until then he is NOT a criminal.
     
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    That is not a fact, she was recalled and reassigned, not fired.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The left has a history of false allegations. An actual history of illegal activity usually involves a trial and at least one conviction for some kind of illegal activity. He has none. That means that history you're talking about is more of a fairy tale than a rap sheet.

    Remember that time they said that a Justice they didn't like was running around putting pubic hairs on women's soft drinks? It's a game they've been playing for decades. They aren't very good at it.
     
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    Given his past record

    Trump university
    Witness intimidation
    Pay for play
    Trump SoHo
    Trump Foundation

    Sorry can’t give Don the con a pass on being a criminal
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ooh. I didn't realize you could read minds. That's an amazing skill. Tell me, what am I thinking right now?
     
  8. Bowerbird

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    no he has a string of pay off though including Pam Bondi

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    Trump is the greatest thing since sliced bread and I will hear no other words....

    Am I right?

    I mean the evidence is there

    It is a matter of public record what Biden did and it is a matter of public record that Trump acted unilaterally in withholding allocated monies

    Do you have other evidence I am unaware of?
     
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    Homer.jpg

    Close?

    On topic, I know what the OP is going for, but the first Republican who saw through Trump and said so was Justin Amash... I won't forget his bravery..

    It'll be Mitt.... he's already clearly on the fence and it won't take a strong breeze to push him over...
     
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    Nope. I don't like Trump at all. I voted for Rubio. I don't like protectionism. I don't like the spending. I don't like the expansion of federal power.

    Evidence, like snipe, hides behind every bush.

    Only that the people supposedly being extorted had no idea that the money was on hold, didn't think they were being extorted, and got the money without doing what they were supposedly bribed to do.

    Oh, and the people making the claim all wanted the investigation too.
     
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    Romney did come to mind. He won’t be the first but he will be a close second

    Trump made a fool of Romney and if Romney was first trump could claim it was just retaliation

    as I said. It is gonna take just one “prominent” senator to grow a set

    Justin Amash does not have enough clout.
     
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    So have the standards for creating a post in Current Events changed? Can we all just post whatever is on our mind in this forum now? If so, this forum is on the downward slope.
     
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    Who cares what Trump claims anymore?? I certainly don't, and I doubt Mitt does either...

    I was only pointing out Amash to show what might happen to somebody who speaks to the truth... it ain't pretty... But when the history of this failed administration is written, he shouldn't be forgotten...
     
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    Oh! Please!

    9h! Please! “Well your honour the homeowners weren’t home so even though our little crim was found with the family jewels we have to let him go because the homeowners were not aware that they were being robbed

    Yeah suuuuuuure!
     
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    Did you read it

    At all?
     
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    You guys are focused on turning individual senators and missing the big picture.

    If you impeach Trump for this it will assure his re-election. It will be such a landslide that there will be no amount of votes found in the trunks of your Priuses that can combat it.

    This narrative you're telling in Washington, in the media, in your bubbles, is making the people's support for Trump stronger.
     
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    I did read it. That's why I asked about the subject change.
     
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    What jewels? Really, you're telling yourself a story that didn't happen.
     
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    Now that the whistleblower’s original charge is blowing up in the dem clown shows reason for investigating they have abandoned their promise to have him testify and have moved onto a new conspiracy theory of ‘bribery’.
     
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    Failed only in the minds of the sufferers that ignore all the winning. Hampered by the traitorous ‘resistance’.
     
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    How could she possibly know she was fired because would get in the way? Oh that’s right. More opinions. And a life long politician is the pure definition of deep state.

    this is like people who sue companies for being racist because their incompetence got them fired. No it’s always because of their race.

    she added absolutely NOTHING to this case except to slam the president. She had zero knowledge of anything. MORE Partisan BS.
     
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    Uuuum. In order for there to be quid pro quo the person being “bribed” or “forced” to do something has to actually know it’s going on. Your attempt at a comparison was misplaced and quite bad actually. As if you don’t really grasp what is actually happening?
     
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