Nearly 80,000 immigrants approved for DACA have arrest records

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  1. lpast

    lpast Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do we keep doing this to our Country and to its citizens


    Nearly 80,000 immigrants approved for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which shields those who came to the country illegally as minors from deportation, have an arrest record -- including arrests for violent or sexual offenses.


    The data released Saturday by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) shows only arrests or apprehensions for a criminal offense or an immigration-related civil offense and does not take into account whether there was a conviction, acquittal, dismissal or a lessening of charges.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ne...r-daca-have-arrest-records-uscis-report-finds
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Saw this earlier. These are the people the left said will improve our economy, lower our crime rate and provide the much needed diversity which will make a mediocre country as great as the countries they escaped from.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    80% of Trumps campaign and administration have been arrested, charged and convicted and more to come.
     
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    lpast Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ROFL cmon man get your figures right before talk
     
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    "does not take into account whether there was a conviction, acquittal, dismissal or a lessening of charges"...

    Sounds to me like this sort of story from Faux COMEDY is being posted (by Fox) only to Demonize Mexicans and give the RW Echo Chamber Today's Installment of Mock Outrage...:bored:

    That said, as long as ALL of them Vote Reliably DEMOCRATIC, who cares if they have a "record"?

    Nobody's Perfect.:salute:
     
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    That's about 10% of the total DACA cases.

    Since roughly 29% of the US population have a criminal record, it seems that the DACA people are more law-abiding than the average.

    https://www.politifact.com/new-york...yes-one-three-us-adults-have-criminal-record/

    Isn't it fun playing with numbers and misleading statistics?
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok, about 75%...
     
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    The difference is these DACA folks shouldn't be here at all, clearly we have enough criminals. We don't need illegal alien criminals mucking up our country...
     
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    lpast Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Run for congress you got my vote :)
     
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    Wow. Next you’ll justify when an illegal murders it’s no biggie because citizens murder people too, so what the difference, eh?

    Leftists are so predictable. Isn’t it fun being so callous and apathetic that your defend illegals?
     
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    DACA participants are no longer illegal.

    If you have group A that commits crime at 29% and group B that commits crime at 10% how is group B worse than group A?
     
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    Totally false claim. But feel free to provide your supporting data.
     
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    One thing that Hannity and Trump fail to inform you people about is the fact that, and this is according to USCIS, that report notes repeatedly that these are arrests, not convictions or charges. “An arrest indicates the individual was arrested or apprehended only and does not mean the individual was convicted of a crime. Further, individuals may not have been charged with a crime resulting from the arrest, may have had their charges reduced or dismissed entirely, or may have been acquitted of any charges,” These people were not even necessarily charged.

    The report shows nearly 7% of DACA approvals had a prior arrest or apprehension. Scientific social studies estimate that about 30 percent of adults in the United States have an arrest record, so by that measure DACA has an arrest rate 78 percent below the average.
     
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    Not defending illegals. I do, however, defend people from being labeled as criminals as a whole group, because of the crimes of their parents.
     
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    Because that 10% shouldn’t exist in this country. Every crime they commit should never be so they are worse by logical deduction. And only through executive order that no one agreed to are these made up group of Dreamers “legal”. They all still came into the country illegally and aren’t citizens.
     
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    Defending perhaps not. But justifying their crimes because citizens commit crimes too is not a good thing. Anyone who enters this country illegally or overstays a Visa, is a criminal.
     
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    That population group does exist though, we cannot simply ignore that — and many of them were brought here against their will as children.

    Why do you believe their crime rate is almost a third that of US citizens?
     
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    I’m sure most of frightened of being deported. So? Their parents are criminals just as they are. They’re all 100% committing a crime every day they’re here even if it isn’t “their fault”. Just because Obama decreed doesn’t really change anything. He made up a cutesy name and the lemmings followed. Nobody really agreed to any of it. It’s all a slap in the face to immigrants who follow legal channels.
     
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    So you believe children should be held responsible for the actions of their parents?

    I noticed you skipped over the question, why is that?
    Why do you believe they are a third less likely to have a criminal background than the average American?
     
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    In which case, why in HELL would you invite more?
     
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    So? They're foreign nationals. Foreign nationals are present in someone else's country every day, all over the world. That doesn't make them citizens of those places.
     
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    No, but they should be treated as all foreign nationals are - subject to strict visa requirements and the like. The age of the person is utterly irrelevant. Children don't get to travel to other countries without passports and visas just because they're kids.
     
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    I don't like how these stats are reported.

    80,000 have been arrested, and some for violence or sexual assault.

    Ok.. so, were 3 arrested for violent crimes and the rest for nonviolent infractions?

    Presenting the 80k number to grab attention, followed by "even some for..." is unfair journalism and conservatives version of fake news.
     
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    Non citizens who commit violent crimes should be deported immediately.

    I would hope everybody would agree with that, but that's being hopeful
     
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    You dont understand DACA. They are still illegal. They werent granted status, they were deferred prosecution. They are still an illegal alien
     
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