My fellow progressives, this is what we're up against.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Nov 17, 2019.

  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    What you are up against is that the facts and reality don't align with your dreams
     
  2. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where is your outrage at CNN for it’s obvious bias?
     
  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The problem isn't bias. I have no problem with the editorial bias of stations like CNN, MSNBC, and Faux. But there is no station comparable to what Faux does to misinform their audience as illustrated by the examples I gave in the OP.
    Moreover, there are hundreds of examples of the Faux effect on the board from Trump backers refusing to accept unequivocal facts. Like impeachment not being a coup. Or allowing a flame thrower like Digenova to make baseless allegations without being confronted for it. Or having Trump's batshyte crazy comment “TRUMP HAS REPEATEDLY IMPLIED THAT SCHIFF HAS COMMITTED TREASON” on the screen along with Schiff. Why would Faux make the conscious decision to give the false claim Schiff committed treason any credence?
    The point of the post is to identify why informed debate with Trumpete's is all but impossible. It's not bias, it's a lack of ability to agree on the basic facts of any given issue. Like this......... “There’s no doubt that George Soros controls a very large part of the career Foreign Service at the United States State Department”............being horseshyte.
     
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    They accuse Trump of all kinds of stuff then whine like little pus rockets when he gives it back
     
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    Well maybe a couple of NGOs in Ukraine that helped overthrow the legit government and funnel in billion$ in IMF loans that went missing.
     
  6. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for making my point.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You say lawless, yet have provided zero evidence of such. You provide hearsay, rhetoric, and flat out lies and pretend you have proof. What a joke...
     
  8. squidward

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    That's right, none of that happened.
    Giggles
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My fellow commie, this is what we are up against.

    There fixed it for you.
     
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    They desperately need to protect their multibillion dollar laundry machine the had going in Ukraine
     
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    In the Fairleigh Dickinson study, they concluded that different groups only got their information from single sources. Yet, they never asked the respondents whether they got their information from a single source. Only where they got most of their information. They performed a study which had never been used before to come to the conclusion that a certain percentage of certain groups got their information from a single source. The reliability of that study is seriously in question when you consider that republicans got the highest scores and they most likely get a major part of their information from FOX.

    I don't know of anyone who gets their news from a single source. It is so unlikely as to be nearly impossible. Personally, on a regular basis, I listen to HLN, FOX, CBS, the local newspaper and here.

    My conclusion on the Fairleigh Dickinson study is that the information on who got the best scores is valid. It comes down to strictly whether you got a question right or wrong and then computing the percent right or wrong. No real study is needed. However, there was no such way to whether they got their information from a single source except some kind of hokey study and anything they say about FOX is very questionable.
     
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    You should do something about it.

    And starting multiple threads centered on your obsession with Trump doesn't count as doing something.
     
  13. william kurps

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    So do Democrats think they are being victimized by fox news, is this really all it's about?

    From your link..


    While Democrats feel victimized by Fox News and allies like Rush Limbaugh,
     
  14. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    To which I am tempted to quote a recent Republican President, "Bring it on".

    Look, you have the Presidency, the Senate and the courts. We have the House. WHY are you complaining? It seems you want absolute control and total repression of any liberal thought at all, is that it? Remember what Maher said, "You can't lock us ALL up."
     
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    Lol, Conservatives are the ones who want public conversation. It is the liberals trying to shut down any conversation that does not agree with their point of view about "bad man" or anything else on their agenda. Any talk of repression of thought is bizarre coming from the mouth of a liberal. But I support your right to make yourself look silly. Have at it, lol.
     
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    What you were responding to is a good example of the absurdity that you note well in your OP
     
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    There are about 30 exceptions to the hearsay rule in the Courts...and newsflash...this ain't a court.

    Also of note...every time you clowns whine about hearsay...three FIRST HAND witnesses testify to the same event supporting the original testimony.
     
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    I have heard this claim before.

    A. It ignores the ABSURD bias and lies of the "opinion" side of Fox.

    B. The "straight news" side is anything BUT that. The bias has infected the entire network and in claiming otherwise, you are accepting this bias unconditionally
     
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    None of that changes why they are generally not allowed. They are not allowed because they tend to be unreliable. It would be even worse in this case because few people are truly unbiased. None of the first hand witnesses have heard Trump say the funds would be withheld, if the investigation did not take place.
     
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    My fellow progressives, this is what we're up against.

    Don't worry, you progressives have your hidden Trump kryptonite.
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  21. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And in spite of this in the only study I have seen of this nature, republican were the best informed. The same republicans who probably watched Fox news more than anyone else.
     
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    Dont watch it, problem solved
     
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  23. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Then why are you shutting it down? Something like close to 200 bills passed by the House have not even been looked at by the Senate, they are stalled at McConnel's desk. If you want public conversation why won't you have any?
     
  24. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    :confusion::confusion: On this board at least what ELSE can anyone do? They could be doing lots otherwise, but here we're only supposed to be dealing with here.
     
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    so many of us who just think lefties are so many nothing burgers, and we don't care what you think...

    Kinda messed up for progressives, I guess. But then, I don't really care.

    What is your plan now that you know we really don't care what you think or where this impeachment goes? That's how it is, you've figured it out, I guess, so what's your game plan now that the gig is up?
     

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