Nearly 80,000 immigrants approved for DACA have arrest records

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  1. FatBack

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    I believe that the law already says that non citizens can be deported over just about any serious breach of laws. Even a Naturalized citizen can be stripped of their citizenship and deported under certain conditions,
    The problem is the laws are not applied.
     
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    Many Democrats do, see the push for "reparations".
     
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    You made the statement, I looked and posted the data I found which did not support your assessment, and asked for your source — and your response is to “look it up”...

    I accept your concession and retraction until it is posted.

    To touch on the remainder of your post; I agree these families should have been stopped before they entered the country but we didn’t and now have children and now young adults here that have no other home. They know no other country. What do you propose we do to them? For the record I am perfectly fine with deporting adults that crossed illegally.
     
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    No it is Sun Spot activity. The more sun spot activity we have the sorrier the state is. I believe that because a Flat Earther told me so.
     
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    I am glad you see the correlation between the two. I disagree with reparations due to the same principle that children should not be punished or rewarded because of the actions of their parents or ancestors. Do you support reparations? If no do you believe children brought here against their will should be deported to a nation they have never known because of the actions of others?
     
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    Which just makes their pathetic accusations of racism, a comedy. Merit - not origins - is the only way to fly. It's the only non-racist way.
     
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    All immigration should be merit based. America is foolish for not insisting on it.
     
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    It's not even a matter of our animal nature, it's actually altruistic to select on merit. It's the only moral system, because it obviates all prejudice and all exploitation.
     
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    I believe ALL illegals need to be deported.
     
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    So if your logic is not emotionally based you support reparations then? Correct?
     
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    Nice try, but no. You obviously must, by the same metric you are attempting to apply to me. Illegals and their parents are living, today.
     
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    They are not worse by logical deduction - as pointed out by Quantum
     
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    Any added crime, is added crime. Simple logic. You dont put a fire out, by pouring gas on it.
     
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    A crime committed by someone who should NEVER had the opportunity to commit it, is far worse. Always is.
     
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    Obama allowed them extensions for education for 2 year terms. It supposed there is a point they would move away to a land where they are citizens of said land.
     
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    How must I? I do not think children should be punished or awarded for the actions of their parents.
    As I have already said I fully support deportation of the parents.
    This is extremely consistent in my view.

    Why are your views inconsistent with one another?
     
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    They are not, you are using a false dichotomy. You support separating families?

    You are painting a false picture and trying to claim they are the same. Slaves were never illegal immigrants and they are all dead. I know you think that was clever but it's a big fail.
     
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    I support removing the parents, if the child is now of age and can remain they should be given the option of a fast track immigration to remain. If the child is a minor they would be deported as well.

    Slaves were not even concerned human, much less illegal or legal.
    It’s not clever at all, you made the comparison and are now trying to retreat. Big fail indeed.
     
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    You are the one who said you dont support punishing kids for their parents actions, I merely pointed out Democrats do, even if it's for what their, Grandaddie's grandaddies did.

    Why punish the kids by ripping their Parents away? Keep families together, deport both. I thought Democrats were against, family separations?
     
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    Yeah, the guy that isn't even a U.S. citizen so who cares. Cry me a Rio Grande, they need to be shipped straight outta here. And on top of that, they need to be given a bill from the government to pay for all the free **** they got on the backs on U.S. taxpaying citizens while they were here illegally. Furthermore, they need to be permanently banned from re-entry. No work visas, tourist visas NADA.
     
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    I live in CA and can tell you that any town or part of a larger town that has a majority Mexican population is an utter ****hole. Import the third world become the third world. Demographics are destiny.
     
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    It DACA, was a "temporary" holding pattern deal as I recall Obamalites said. Obama ran out of political capital and ran out of Democratic House and Senatorial members so the DACAlites were sitting in limbo and getting older. By the time there status gets resolved they will be grandparents and what do we do? Deport the entire mess ? Starting with the criminal great grandparents and then down the line to the illegal but innocent and then what deport their offspring who were born here?
    We could do that if we do away with the 14th amendment retroactively.

    We could move to the Final Solution with the DACA and illegals problem by just suspending the Constitution and make immigration and illegal migrant problem a military and security issue. Hey there is an unnamed POTUS who already is ignoring the Constitution so what do we need it for? Wallpaper?
     
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    Did you even read what I posted?
    Leaving it up to the child — who is innocent in all of this and knows no other home — would be best.
    Thus there is no “ripping their parents away”.
     
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    If i commit a crime and the police arrest me they are ripping me away from my children. Dont commit crimes. Problem solved.
     
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