Biden Says Marijuana Might Be A Gateway Drug

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  1. Badaboom

    Badaboom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Canada has legalize it, but the money has failed to materialize for three reason. 1- People who were already using it already had easy access to it. They even delivered it to your door. 2- People who weren't using it aren't interested in starting using it just because it's legal now. 3- The smell of pot smoke is so bad that almost all of the renter in cities prohibit it in their rental units and you can't smoke in public places either.
     
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    While I agree with you, you're wrong on one aspect. Take california for example. Area's where it's legal there (shops), the DEA can storm in and shut them down. It's still illegal federally.
     
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    Sure. Let's have a few more decades of research. We can never have too much protection from big government, eh what?
     
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    Back in the day teens smoked low grade marijuana and were happy doing so. No one died from this. Then the government got involved and: 1) Forced people into harder drugs; 2) jailed a lot of people who are not a danger to society; 3. seriously destroyed Constitutional protections such as the 4th Amendment; and 4: enabled the cartels by weeding out the small time drug suppliers. Isn't big government great?
     
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    Gateway drug, that would be any drug you put in a resin chamber or cultivate for a higher high...
    It gateway's itself when you smuggle because Kiwi Green is horrible, or vote for Raygun but get a certain satisfaction in getting his Marines wasted at Point Mugu.

    States should do what they want, and the US government should stick to protecting us by killing commie treasonous democrats that shield illegal alien invaders...

    Sorry, I think that was a flashback.
     
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    He's right
     
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    Don't vote for Biden then.
     
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    I never sold meth or heroin during a thirty year career salesman for marijuana..
     
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    How would he know he has never tried it..
     
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    It is clearly a gateway drug for some people.
    Just like a glass of wine becomes full blown alchoholism for some.
     
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    Uncle Joe is still living in the 1980's..
     
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    No, your example should have jumped to hard booze since alcoholism is not a gateway drug...
     
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    You know what i meant
     
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    Do we gear society to the slowest, weakest, dumbest people?
     
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    Yes you are either a person with addictive traits or you are not. Around 6-7% of the population can't enjoy a recreational use they are addicts and alcoholics..
     
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    I think the idea of a "gateway" drug is simply a way to push blame and accountability onto something people can't control. Addicts are usually suffering from mental illness of some kind, be it anxiety to schizophrenia. The true gateway was probably alcohol, not marijuana, as it's even easier to get despite recent state's legalization.

    The idea that an inanimate object is to blame is silly. Marijuana is of course a drug, like alcohol, and shares many properties that ensure we should regulate it in some form. But addicts aren't made by a brain healthy individual smoking pot one day and then that's it. There are people who use marijuana and don't fit the bill of being a true addict, just as there are many of us who drink alcohol and aren't alcoholics.

    So in the long run, I don't think this topic matters much.
     
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    I think the idea of a "gateway drug" is a propaganda construct designed to make something that is not very dangerous or addictive seem much more dangerous than it really is, in order to drive a political narrative.
     
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    I agree.
     
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    Personally I'm for full legalization, its always been illegal for me but honestly its very very easy to obtain if you just ask the right person, just send a quick text and within 24 hours the problem is solved.

    I doubt it would change my habits at all, but it would be nice not to have to be sneaky about it.

    I'd be fine with it being available recreational but I will admit when I was in colorado and wash state that I didn't enjoy standing in line behind someone who just had a smokeout in their car (can't smoke in public) and absolutely reeking of weed. When we visited the space needle there was a lady that smelled so bad that even in the crowded hallway waiting to go up the elevator she had a good 5ft clearance behind her because everyone kept moving back to get further away from the smell.
     
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    A lot of people are and if it is regulated like alcohol, I could see getting onboard with it. Especially for the professions like the NFL. Just stop drug testing for it, period. So what if these guys smoke dope to relieve the pain. As long as they don't come to work high or deal it in the work place. There has to be a set bar that is followed.

    Military is another matter. I have never seen anything good come from guys doing drugs in the military.
     
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    why do you think society is so ****ed up in some places, thats exactly what happends there

    here in belgium the overal education is declining in quality ever since they are going for a system where the endmarks are lowered to include and help the weaker students
    while at the same time they complain and wonder how the education is dropping in rank/quality from really good compared to rest of europe to middleground in alot of aspects
     
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    It is a gateway drug that leads to pizza and Hacky Sack!
     
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    He also said it’s up to the states. Pretty moderare position.
     
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    I was randomly tested from age 15-19 when I worked as a grocery store bag boy and produce clerk, we did work with sharp knives however, but those were prime pot smoking years I missed out on lol. My wife has been randomly tested from 1989 until now for her job. Basically that means I have little sympathy for those being tested, its a condition of employment that you were aware of when you signed on.

    I have no issues with testing for high risk occupations, which there are many. But overall I think in 2019 its time to let it go for the general public, it just seems to be an overall waste of resources to police cannabis.
     
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    Good post! I agree with this.

    Hard to believe as a bagger at a grocery store, they would drug test you. When I was a kid and a busboy, they never drug tested us. In fact, I never got tested until NROTC and then I was tested like clockwork. I never did partake in drugs because if I was caught, I lost my whole ride to college and I came from a family that Middle Class and could not afford to send me off to college.

    Drugs never really appealed to me anyway, however, beer was acceptable so maybe I had a few of those, every now and again. ;)
     

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