How does one arrive at the truth............

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True, but the written answers given to Mueller were handed in under the penalty of perjury. Don's daily lies are not spewed under oath.
     
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    Ahh hurt feelings much? Trump lies aren't much beyond failed intentions. Schiff were intended to remove a president without bothering with proof of wrong doing.
     
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    And were truthful to best of him and his lawyers knowledge.
     
  4. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "In questioning Monday, a majority of the three-member panel of Judges Judith W. Rogers, Thomas B. Griffith and Neomi Rao seemed inclined to uphold the House’s authority to obtain grand jury records as part of impeachment proceedings, but was considering staying the release of information and requiring the House to provide a more detailed showing of why it needed each disclosure it sought, at least behind closed doors with the lower court."
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...97aa5c-0173-11ea-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html
     
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    You have sir refuted nothing other than any notion that you might be an impartial observer.
     
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    The boy who cried wolf made exposing the truth impossible by discrediting himself with BS too much.

    The Dems have done the same.

    Few hold any blame for the Trump administration resisting this inquest due to the shear bulk of all the others that came before and turned up zilcho.

    Yall used up your 'wolf cries' long ago, and its your own fault you cant get anywhere now.

    You'll eventually have to accept that Trump is your president. How much more damage you do to your party beforehand is still up to you.
     
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    Congrats. You win the ironic post of the week award. :)
     
  8. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's the point. They didn't turn up zilch. And while it may be true few Trumpers don't mind seeing another investigation being obstructed, the same can not be said for the majority of Americans.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't feel compelled to fill in for garyd's sophistry. If you give it a few hours I'm sure there is something salient you can come up with.

    "In questioning Monday, a majority of the three-member panel of Judges Judith W. Rogers, Thomas B. Griffith and Neomi Rao seemed inclined to uphold the House’s authority to obtain grand jury records as part of impeachment proceedings, but was considering staying the release of information and requiring the House to provide a more detailed showing of why it needed each disclosure it sought, at least behind closed doors with the lower court."
     
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    You folks certainly cared that Bill Clinton lied about a Beeg though huh?
     
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    Given the vitriolic nature of the hyper partisan speech Billy the Bagman gave the other day...the man himself should be impeached.

    He almost literally called half the nation's population "the enemy".

    This from the man heading the Department of Justice.

    Just chilling
     
  12. Lee Atwater

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    I've heard a number of people familiar with him say they are surprised if not shocked at his willingness to throw away his good standing in the legal community in order to due Don's bidding while betraying the people he is theoretically obliged to represent..........us.
     
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    My post was only in response to you. I’m just enjoying the clown show. If you think you are ever going to get truth out of government you are already ‘round the bend. When a majority of people realize this is all bread and circuses we can get back to government of, by, and for the people. As long as you let any political party be your marionettist, politics in this country will continue to devolve.
     
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    I voted for Bill Clinton both times.
     
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    Most of your buddies didn't and they don't care about Trump lying either so...
     
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    Since you ignored and omitted it, I'll presume you have no rebuttal to having lost credibility for the mountain of accusations you all failed to prove. Go ahead and keep crying 'wolf!' You have the right to destroy yourselves before 2020.
     
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    Hmm Clinton lied.. Trump just talksc out his ass. Someone told him you can nuke hurricanes so he repeats it.

    Some one tells him Ukraine is corrupt and might have been involved in the 2016 messthen someone said Biden had dealings there so he asks around
     
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    I sincerely appreciate you explaining your rationalization for Trump's impeachable behavior. Had I realized you're in the paralyzingly cynical, factually inaccurate, "they all do it" camp I'd never have responded to your gratuitous insult in the first place. Rest assured it won't happen again.
     
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    Exactly which investigation of Trump do you erroneously believe turned up zilch?
     
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    No , it gets old fast .... im sick of them .
     
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    Yea, i bet you did...
     
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    Promises, promises. :)

    Yes they all do it. That’s a fact. I challenge you to quote where I’ve rationalized Trump’s behavior. Also quote what I’ve said that is factually inaccurate.

    You are the one paralyzed by partisanship thinking. I hope someday you are able to escape the clutches. Pointing out the government’s shameless exploitation of voter’s emotional loyalties isn’t any more insulting than the daily posts you make disparaging people who think Trump is the lesser of evils in presidential elections.
     
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    May St. Jude, the patron saint of lost causes, look over you.
     
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    You need him a lot worse than I do. I'm sure you'll manage an impeachment vote in the house strictly along party lines but it will never get to 2/3 in the Senate and a move for summary dismissal will likely win hands down.
     
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    That isn't news to me. I've known that all along. The once proud GOP is pretty much in lockstep with Trump. I have never been dumb enough to think Trump would be removed from office by this process. I'm okay with that.

    What I have wanted, and what I am, for the most part, getting, is for the House of Representatives to do their constitutional duty and impeach this scoff-law president.

    What I want is for each and every Representative and Senator to go on historic record on this issue and this president, either upholding honor and integrity or ignoring it in favor of party and ideology. I want them all to forever live with their vote on this.
     

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