who will be the first republican to accept the facts??

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  1. Bowerbird

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    You mean the investigation that was already halted and would have restarted when a new prosecutor was put in place?
     
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    Whoa. Not only does your invented narrative rely on the ability to read Biden's mind, but now it depends on your mind reading his ability to confidently predict the future.

    How the heck would Biden know what a future prosecutor would do?

    Look I don't have a dog in the Biden fight. Some Dems wanna run him and I think he's completely unelectable. I know I'm not alone in that, even among the Dems. That said, you've invented two completely different narratives set around a pair of very similar behaviors. One you're totally cool with that directly involves a first hand account of a quid pro quo interaction. The second requires a secret decoder ring and some magic glasses to even imply coercion.

    It makes a person wonder...
     
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    gringo Well-Known Member Donor

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    in honor of the thread being moved I feel it is appropriate to add to it

    both Biden and Trump are guilty of being dirty in Ukraine

    Biden used the US assistance so his son could knock down more than $50K a month

    biden did it for his son who has been labeled a loser because a substance abuse issue

    shame on him for helping his son

    Lock him up!!

    Trump used the US assistance to rig and election and ruin Biden's reputation

    shame on him for trying to rig an election

    Lock him up

    but , trump is winning for those watching

    biden is falling in the poles for helping his kid

    trump has not lost a single supporter for attempting to rig an election

    seems the more trump is shown to be a liar and cheat the more support he gets

    kinda sad
     
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    That's hilarious! Heck of a lawyer with a heck of name. Trumps personally lawyer....
     
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    Might be sad, might be that the large group of people who see things different from you should be considered to be reasonable and you should look to your own assumptions to figure out what you're getting wrong.
     
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    Fake news.
     
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    What scheme?
     
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    By the time the impeachment reaches the Senate all the Repubs there will have been forced to acknowledge the truth. They'll just say, "so what?"
     
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    As long as done in moderation.
     
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    Impersonating a comedian is a 90 day ban.

    Though I'll give you a pass since that was moderately humourous.
     
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    Well done!
     
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    If true, investigate.
    Don't extort and bribe to find out.
     
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    Pssst - over here - Psst - It wasn't Putin that appointed Trump - That would be the Rothschild/Rockefeller Consortia.
     
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    What makes you say that?
     
  15. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How does a world leader investigate a crime in someone else's country? Isn't it easy enough to ask them to do it? I think it's especially easy if the relationship involves large sums of taxpayer money.

    Is it the Dems position that we should just hand over tax payer money to other countries unconditionally?
     
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    Don't worry. Once Durham is done handing out his many indictments for the Russia hoax he will be assigned to investigate the Bidens with regards to Ukraine. With the amount of public evidence (Joe implicating himself with extortion on video and Hunter's interview 3 weeks ago with ABC) this should be an easy one two three criminal investigation. It won't be too much longer for the Dems till
     
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    I am not a Dem, nor do I have any say in their position.

    We have FBI, CIA, NSA. They all can do some investigative work.

    One thing we can't do, is use the office of prez to extort a gov't to do an investigation. Is the the R's position?
     
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    OK. We'll see if there is any merit.
     
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    When the polls tell Mitch to let them go.
    Unfortunately, that is reality. Watch the state data closely and that will produce the odds for each Senator.

    Always remember we live in a culture of corruption. Followers are a penny a couple bakers dozen.
     
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    And she also testified that she was coached on how to deflect questions about Burisma and the Biden situation before her confirmation hearing.

    More proof that Yovanovitch was acting more like a FIREWALL than an independent minded ambassador.
     
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    “Republicans MUST accept the fact that Trump is a criminal”. I honestly do not mean any disrespect here, but if you truly believe the quote then you still have much to learn about human nature. I hope that you were being hyperbolic. Do not assume that if others use their heads that they will come to the same conclusion as you. I wish it were that way, but sadly it is not.

    The only Republicans that will even be tempted to join with the Democrats are Republicans with a left leaning majority in terms of constituents of Republicans not seeking re-election.
     
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    Ukraine was investigating Yovanovitch.
     
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    Another ineffectual excuse for Trump's impeachable behavior, that Ukraine didn't know it was being extorted, goes up in smoke.

    US officials knew of Ukraine’s Trump anxiety
    https://apnews.com/139dd535eac749aa961bc0205d10e872

    WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. State Department officials were informed that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy was feeling pressure from the Trump administration to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden even before the July phone call that has led to impeachment hearings in Washington, two people with knowledge of the matter told The Associated Press.

    In early May, officials at the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv, including then-Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, were told Zelenskiy was seeking advice on how to navigate the difficult position he was in, the two people told the AP.
     
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    ‘two people’, the height of believability. LOL
     
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    Is it the Dem's position that the President is not in charge of the FBI, CIA, and NSA?

    Is it the Dem's position that you can use the office of president to extort a gov't to fire an investigator?
     

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