WATCH LIVE: Public Impeachment Hearings (Vindman/Williams)

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  1. Vote4Future

    Vote4Future Well-Known Member

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    More failed testimony across the board! This is getting comedic at best!
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, a video in which VP Biden tells them to fire the prosecutor or they're not getting a billion dollars isn't proof of criminality.

    "Do me a favor" is proof of criminality.

    Derp.
     
  3. BuckyBadger

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    enjoy your clown car show that seems to be tanking right now. lol
     
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    I'm surprised that the D's don't bring up the fact that the Pentagon had essentially cleared the new Ukrainian government for taking appropriate "anti-corruption" steps... We don't hear enough about that..

    SNIP
    The defense undersecretary for policy, John Rood, wrote in a May 23 letter to Congress that the Pentagon had made a thorough assessment of Ukraine’s anti-corruption actions and other reforms.

    “On behalf of the secretary of defense, and in coordination with the secretary of state, I have certified that the government of Ukraine has taken substantial actions to make defense institutional reforms for the purpose of decreasing corruption” and making other improvements, Rood wrote.

    Rood wrote that his certification, legally required before the aid could be released, was based on insights gained in “persistent U.S. engagement” with Ukraine, including meetings between the U.S. defense secretary and his Ukrainian counterpart.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...n-stalled-aid-for-ukraine-draws-new-scrutiny/
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well the dem clown show has all but stated Vindman chopped down a cherry tree yet all of his testimony is opinion.
     
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    “Here, right matters.”

    it is a message that I hope the Republicans take on board.
     
  7. BuckyBadger

    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    If they did, it means Trump was legit in asking Ukraine to look into the corruption and into Hunter Biden. The last thing in the world they want is for anyone to look into their corruption and their bribery and extortion schemes.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Vindman's opinion is, "right?"

    But who has the authority to determine what either the policy is or who should be investigated?
     
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    "The number of times that a witness has been asked whether Trump's conduct constituted bribery, before my Yovanovitch was asked by my colleague, Mr. Stewart, on Friday, is zero."

    *******n. Just admit you were wrong.
     
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  10. Egoboy

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    You have a video of Biden telling the Ukrainians to fire the prosecutor?? Really?? I'd like to see that...
     
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    Our foreign policy is to enforce mutual assistance treaties in fighting corruption between officials in our governments and protecting tax payer dollars and our government from undue influence by foreign oligarchs. You oppose that?
     
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    Stefanik and other Republicans routinely bring up the fact that Trump sent lethal aid to Ukraine, while Obama didn't. This is true. Buy why are there zero Democrats willing to defend Obama's (correct) position on that subject, and criticize Trump for recklessly recklessly fueling a proxy war?

    Interesting circumstances...
     
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    You must be joking.

    Is this really how desperate you are?
     
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    Of course he was, in fact, he was obligated to.
     
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    I admit you are wrong. We all know Biden bribed Ukraine and his son got millions from them.

    Are you denying Hunter Biden got millions from Ukraine?
     
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    No. "Do me a favor" is evidence that Trump abused his power when he sought campaign assistance from a foreign power in the form of an investigation against his domestic political rival while he simultaneously and unilaterally held up hundreds of millions in military aid, a requested meeting, and a restoration of trade rights.
     
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    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    I admit that you are running from the fact that YOU provided proof public testimony has attributed bribery to Trump's behavior.
     
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  18. Bluesguy

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    A President has no obligation to participate in impeaching himself or providing evidence towards that. Schiff can go to court......oh hat's right he dropped that.
     
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    Vindman just testified that he watched it.

    This goes beyond desperation.
     
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    Get as much mileage as you can out of your "domestic political rival" nonsense as you can before the wheels come off.
     
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    President Trump which means idiots like Vindman should keep their mouths shut and do their duty. He stepped way outside of his authority.
     
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    Can you post it? I'd love to see a video of Biden telling the Ukrainians to fire their prosecutor...
     
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    Pathetic.
     
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    Might want to get the mileage out of your denial before Trump retires and cites his health issues in order to avoid impeachment.
     
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    Well here is the Dems throwing out the "Discrimination bullshit" poor immigrant booohhooo.. This turd is ready to flush..
     
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