A Question for Republicans: Who Is Donald Trump?

Have you asked yourselves this question? I told you during the campaign of 2016, that Donald Trump was a not who or what you thought he was. Yet, you ignored that study I provided and you went out and supported his campaign instead of developing a candidate who would demonstrate true Conservative Values, which I support.

I am a real Conservative, so I know one when I see one. Donald Trump, was and is a New York slickster who would and did say anything to build himself up personally. He's been doing that all his life. His father taught him how to do it. He'll use anyone, anything and any situation or circumstance to his strategic advantage - as long as he's the ultimate beneficiary. That was his MO in New York and that's his MO in Washington. Yet, somehow, you never saw this coming.

Who is Donald Trump, really? You thought he was the savior of all things "Republican." Yet, his actions to date have been the most destructive force within the Republican Party that I've ever witnessed in my lifetime. He's been a nuclear bomb in the heart of the Republican Party, yet you somehow believe that your Political Interests are being forwarded and protected by this Trojan Horse.

Did you ever stop to think that Donald Trump, was a Political Operative? I told you that before you put him in the White House, but you did not listen to wisdom. You did not listen to insight. You did not study the history of Donald Trump, before you supported him. You just jumped on the Freight Train to Political Hell and now you've got the Suburbs of America on fire to get rid of this guy and never vote Republican again. I've literally talked to people who say exactly that: "I'll never vote Republican again in my life." No joke. People are actually saying that. Obviously, these were mostly Independent slash Moderate types anyway - but to hear people actually saying that is troubling, is it not Republicans?

You screwed yourselves. You screwed us. You screwed True Conservatism. We may never see the White House again for the next 50 years or more because of what you did by supporting this Trojan and not developing a real Conservative Candidate who would remain true to real Conservative Values.

You've killed us in Local Government. You are killing us in State Government. And, your continued support for this Trojan will kill our ability to put forth a solid Candidate when he's gone from national politics. You have ripped the Party into shreds - splintering the Party into several different factions. You've got Ann Coulter (of all People) shredding the President with every vowel that comes from her mouth. To date, you've got literally no old school contemporary mainstream Republicans coming out of retirement or off the sidelines to claim ownership of this President's Administration.

A Sheep in Wolf's clothing? A Trojan Horse? A Pandora's Box? A Political Operative activated to destroy the Republican Party? I'm not asking you to agree with these ideas. I'm asking you to look at the damage done to real Conservatism and with a straight face disagree with these ideas. You can't. Not with a straight face. You screwed us. Why? Why did you fail to do your homework on this guy's personal history before getting behind him with such force and commitment?

The damage you have done is monumental and epic in proportion. So much so, that I must now ask you the question: Who are you and why did you blow up Conservatism in the United States of America this way?

 

Perhaps a more appropriate question might be WHAT is donald trump.

 

Let's start by delineating what Donald Trump Is not. He is not a smooth as glass professional Politician whose been auditioning for the job of president his entire life. He's not a neo con, or a Libertarian, there's a bit of old school populist, but not entirely so He doesn't come at the job from a predetermined mind set and in his mind very little is cut and dried save the visceral need to respond when attacked.

 

He is the president who is nominating and placing good constitutional judges to the federal level at breakneck speed. MAGA

 

Easy answer. President.

 

The only way the Republicans could of beaten Hillary, was run one of her own against her, they go low you go lower.


We got what we wanted, the Supreme court

 

That is the primary question in this thread. The latter was the secondary. Who attends these Trump Rallies at this point? Are they Political Operative Democrats? I'm a Conservative and I don't have a solitary Conservative friend who tells me in private they they want to support this guy. All of my Conservative friends tell me in private that they loathe Donald Trump, precisely because he's caused so much damage to Conservatism in this country. They want the Party to develop a genuine Conservative Candidate for 2020. So, do I.

I don't want to see a Liberal in office in 2020. I don't to see Liberals taking over local and state governments because people are so put off by Trump's behavior and failed leadership. But, I'm questioning whether his behavior and failed leadership were planned in advance to destroy Conservatism in this country. I'm questioning whether or not this guy is in fact a Democrat Trojan Horse. I stated this on this forum long before he got elected. My "theory" has been 'proven' (or at least proofed) given the latest round of elections at the local level in this country.

He's been a boon for Liberals seeking office and that should not be the case if he were a genuine Conservative. But, no. People thought I was on some kind of Conspiracy Theory before the 2016 election. That "theory" is looking damn good right now by my count of the latest election results. He's been total nuclear chaos at the ballot box for Conservatives. I want to know how the hell did so many "Conservatives" get it so wrong.

 

Primus, what is a “real conservative”?

 

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Unfortunately, you have not answered the question. I AM a real Conservative. I know one when I see one because it takes one to know one and birds of a feather - well you know the rest. This man is NO Conservative, yet he's out there pretending to be one while at the very same time taking a very large dump on genuine Conservative Values. You say he's not polished. LOL! That's hilarious. He's the most polished Slickster I've ever seen in Washington D.C. - ever in my lifetime. Every time he steps in front of microphone before a crowd of adoring people who have not done their homework on his background - I can see straight through his rhetorical BS. He stokes the crowd with what he thinks they want to hear, while not actually believing the BS that comes from his own mouth. That's "polished." That's very well polished.

Meanwhile, he's got "Republicans" (notice how I intentionally separate "Conservatism" from "Republicans") split along at least three different paths right now. He's got people like Ann Coulter, Glen Beck and Rick Santorum (just to name a few) headed in three distinctly different directions. If those three people are headed in three distinctly different directions then you know Donald Trump has been nothing short of a nuclear detonation in the "Republican" party. So, what good has he done within the "Republican" party to date? What actual gains have been made for the "Republican" party outside of Washington and the now toxic Trumpasphere? Don't wait for the translation - I'll tell you right here. None. Zip. Zero. In fact, he's turned the clock back on the "Republican" party and has every single local "Republican" running for their lives in the Suburbs politically speaking - unless they live in Ultra Country - we know full well that Ultras do not represent the mainstream "Republican" party.

Trojan Horse? A plant by the Democrats? A Political Operative pretending to be cultivating cozy relationships with the Russians, when all he's really doing is making Conservatives look bad? Ok, so he's not a Neocon or a Libertarian. Yet, he behaves like a Liberal Democrat Political Operative seeking to do as much damage to the Conservative core in this country as he possibly can.

Do we not have a single solitary truly Conservative Candidate who can genuinely represent the "Republican" party in this country anymore? Are you telling me that genuine Conservatism is now dead in this country - to the point where we cannot stake out a position with a rock solid Conservative Candidate and bring some real leadership to Washington? Say it ain't so. Who is Donald J. Trump? He's not behaving like a true Conservative, so what the @$#%@! is he?

Bet you wish Ross Perot were back now - don't ya?

 

Judges rule after the fact. They are not policy makers. Furthermore, how have those constitutional judges done in places like California, with respect to the 2nd Amendment? We still have an unconstitutional "Approved Handgun Roster" out here that none of Trump's judges have done anything about. In fact, we've got cases out here the court won't even hear. So, how's that working out for Conservatives?

 

So.......overturning the separation of powers is a GOOD thing?

 

Of what? Trump Industries? Yeah, we know that much. He's President of Trump Imagery, no doubt. However, what just recently happened in Virginia? Have you been paying attention? Do you not see what's happening around you? What just happened to the Virginia State Legislature and why does it matter so much to the rest of the Southeast and eventually the South?

 

I take it you have been under a rock since 2016.

 

I am a Democrat and moderately liberal. Primus has asked a thoughtful question and gotten very little substance by way of an answer.

Is it possible that the trumpettes don't know what he is ?

 

So, you've given up? You quit? That's it - just like that. The United States Supreme Court will save us! That's sad. I'm saddened by that sentiment. So, you are saying that "Conservatism" is so weak socially that all we can do is rig the bench, cross our fingers and hope for the best downrange? Are you saying we've lost the Cultural War? In other words, the entire country would rather become flaming Liberal torches for Entitlement than purveyors of Personal Responsibility, Free Market Economy and Constitutional adherence?

Just like that - you quit? I'm not quitting. There is no quit in me. If I have to single handily revive true Conservatism in this country, I'll do it.

Now, more than ever is the time for genuine Conservative Leadership.

 

Easy:

- Ethics
- Morals
- Character
- Integrity
- Principles
- Priorities
- Common Sense
- Better Judgement
- Situational Awareness
- Truth
- Justice
- No one gets left behind
- Free Market Economy
- Personal Responsibility
- Opportunity
- Innovation
- Constitutional Adherence
- Willingness to Work Hard
- Intelligence to Work Smart
- Community
- Civic Duty and Civic Responsibility
- Right to LIFE
- Freedom & Independence
- National Pride

These are the things that make a Conservative - Genuine.

 

List Edited for accuracy.

 

Most polls show Trump having around a 90% approval rating amongst Republican voters. While Republicans are not automatically Conservatives, the two tend to go mostly hand in hand.

With that being the case, either those 90% polls are abject lies, your claim is an abject lie, or you have a group of friends that to a man are WAY outside of mainstream Conservative thought. There really are not any other credible options to explain that discrepancy.

 

Pay attention:



That was Virginia. Who's next? People have been online in Virginia for years telling those of us who live in California, to "simply move out." People in Virginia for years have been online laughing at us in California, because of the absurd nature of "gun laws" in California and that nothing of the sort could or would "ever happen in Virginia." Well, guess what - it did happen. And, this is going to happen with more frequency than ever - why? Donald J. Trump. That's why. This list of new Gun Laws must have been living under a rock in Virginia since 2016, huh? This "new" list of gun laws is NOT new. Its OLD HAT. This is the EXACT same BS that we've had in California for years!

Please, wake UP! When I say that Donald Trump, has been acting and behaving like a Liberal Political Operative - I meant exactly what I said. Virginia, is but one (1) example of what's taking place around the country and will take place on a much more frequent basis WHEN more Liberal gets swept into office precisely because of what Donald Trump has done as President.

Now, you tell me how this helps the "Republican" party or "Conservatism" in anyway, shape or form? I dare you to tell me that Donald Trump, has helped the Conservative cause, when states like Virginia, are now about to look very much like the State of California and New York with respect to Firearms.

How does this help!

My gawd. Wake up!

 

So I take it you don’t believe my claim that Trump is President. Fascinating.

 

Have demographics changed in Virginia?

 

Conservatives are no different than Democrats. They held the house, Senate and executive branch for two years and did absolutely NOTHING to repeal Obamacare.

Question is, if you're conservative why would you support Republicans?

 

Didn't read thread and most of the horseshit OP post.

Who is Donald Trump? I know exactly who he is. He is the voice of an abused American private sector taxpayer who sat and watched for decades as a swampy gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex that puts a target on the private sector for its unjust, corrupt enrichment grew completely out of control.

He watched for decades as the private sector has been milked near dry by the Complex ticks and dregs, experienced it himself in one of the most Complex-heavy, corrupt areas of the country in a minefield industry.

Going all the way back to the early 90s, he publically complained about it in national media. He watched scum like the Clintons, Pelosis, Feinsteins, Waters (and THOUSANDS of others) profiting hand over fist while selling out Americans to every foreign interest in the world, holding out the brown bag in exchange for bad deals, bad treaties, bad aid, bad policy that enriches everyone in the world BUT AMERICANS.

Finally he had enough and realized there was no stopping them unless men of his power and name recognition stepped up and did it.

AND THE FACTUAL PROOF OF EVERYTHING ABOVE IS THE REACTION OF THE COMPLEX, IN ALL ITS PUSTULENT TRIBUTARIES, TO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION FROM THE MOMENT HE ANNOUNCED HIS CANDIDACY TO THE PRESENT HILARITY OF A BACKFIRING IMPEACHMENT EFFORT.

It's like an old Hammer Film when Peter Cushing shows up at the castle and Christopher Lee starts hissing and spitting. NOT... ONE... BIT... DIFFERENT.

Those who don't see that for what it is are either morons or bad people. No possible way a rational, ethical American on the right side of the bell curve could misinterpret or misunderstand status quo U.S. politics.

Dumb or evil, no "c" answer.

 

Most polls? Come on. Most polls said that Trump, did not have a snowballs chance of getting through the Primaries, let along making his way to the White House as Commander In Chief. Most polls? Most polls had Hillary Clinton in the driver's set like A.J. Foyt winning the 24 Hours of Le Mans. Yet, she lost and he won.

%#@#%@#$%@$!

Arrrrrrg!

I'll take door Number #2 Alex, for $1,000. Ah, yes. That's an Audio Daily Double:



Noam Chomsky, knows what a True Conservative is all about. I like to use the adversaries of True Conservatism to describe what a True Conservatism is all about. Noam, hits it squarely on the head, that which I have been saying on this forum for year now - that True Conservatism has not been practiced in this country for at least 117 years. Noam, understood that. Unfortunately, too many calling themselves "Republicans" today, would not know a genuine Conservative thought if it jumped up and smacked them in the face while wearing a sombrero on fire.

Unreal.

That is my pain and suffering. Liberals, are just flat out Socialists and soon to be flat out Communists in this country and so-called "Conservatives" are completely unaware of their True Origins and True Nature in this country to be called Genuine Conservatives. I'm a Man with no Party and that is why I advocate for stripping Political Party completely out of Central Government and moving towards a Pure Risk Management form of Federal Government, but I'm probably 200 years ahead of my time on that.

 

If your intent was not to actually respond to what I said, I would prefer that you simply not quote my post.


On a side note, if you support a form of Conservatism that has not been practiced in this country in 117 years, then indeed, you are WAY outside the norm of mainstream Conservative thought. My analysis was therefore 100% correct.