Trump announces rule requiring hospitals to reveal rates

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  1. vman12

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    The obvious answer is that incest isn't always rape.
     
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    it's an easy yes or no question, but you do not have to answer if you don't want too
     
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    never claimed it was, Einstein married his cousin, it happens
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure.

     
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    "of course incest is included in rape, if it's a rape.. it's a rape"

    you have to read all the way to the end, if it's not a rape, it's not a rape
     
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    I'll let you figure out your own logical fallacies.
     
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    Knowing what your heart bypass surgery is going to cost isn't probably going to make you more or less likely to put down the Big Mac....

    Most insurance pays a percentage and the individual pays the rest, so yes it would matter how much the procedure was going to cost, and it would be smart to shop around.

    Likewise if you need anything done before you've met your deductible, you'll be paying for the whole thing out if pocket, so you'd definitely be smart to care about the cost.

    Oh, and insurers already have a say in which doctors you can use ;)
     
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    I think most have a co-pay, but yes, some plans only cover a percentage

    and yes, those are the people this may help, I stated that, just I am not one of those people, I have a co-pay

    "Oh, and insurers already have a say in which doctors you can use ;)"

    oh I know, so do republicans, that is why I made the comment, your employers and insurers for most people decide your doctors you can pick from, was that way before ObamaCare, After and still is
     
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    But having tax payers subsidize the corn that feeds the subsidized beef while washing it down with subsidized pepsi will help people create habits that lead to needing government subsidized bypass surgery followed by a lifetime of government subsidized pharm products.
     
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    What you're talking about could be an interesting separate discussion, but it has absolutely nothing to do with this one.
     
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    Its the reason we are having this discussion in the first place. None are so blind...
     
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    Medical price transparency has no impact on unhealthy eating habits.

    As an aside, healthy people, and people who eat/live healthy, require medical care too.

    You have an axe to grind with the unhealthy eating habits of most Americans ---- I get it, and I don't disagree ---- but you are trying to drag the topic into a discussion where it is irrelevant. If it interests you so much you might have better luck starting a different thread.
     
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    Three hundred a day? Hell, that's just an extra 6 doses of Tylenol the hospital has to sell to cover that cost.
     
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    I appreciate you admitting that this will not make a positive difference in public health. You are 100% correct that healthy people require medical care, but that is a different product than is being sold today.

    I have no issue with the habits of others. People can sniff glue for all I care. I just don't feel it is right to force me to pay for the glue and the treatment afterwards. As Americans continue to get fatter and sicker, this will be an issue for all politicians to use as a tool to gain power.

    This thread at least gets people talking about being cheated. Why not expose all the cheating while were at it?
     
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    Your insurance negotiates lower prices with providers. A company like BCBS, who has hundreds of thousands of subscribers, provides the incentive because the provider gets to make money off of the insurance company's customers which come in such large numbers. The discount like won't get extended to other customers, but rather all would pay the higher prices, which means you pay 20% of a larger bill.

    My insurance company lists providers and what they charge along with my share of the cost on their website. I can shop around if I need an MRI or something like that. In the case of emergency medicine, there isn't really time to check various prices.
     

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