Vindman just lied under oath…

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  1. Cubed

    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No I'm not. I have no idea if he knows or not. I'm explaining why revealing the Intel analyst name (if he isn't the WB) would still make it easier to figure out who it is.

    Also I don't really care who it is at this point. When the people who talked to the WB testify, the WB becomes as immaterial and inconsequential.
     
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    I just saw the article. It contains a bald faced lie. No where in the video did they say what the article said they did

    The article puts that statement in quotes as is it is verbatim, but it is not. Just more conservative lies.
     
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    I am not sure what "investigation" you are referring to. I decided to watch and listen to an Impeachment Hearins. If that is the "clown show " you are alluding to I will say that those who are Trump fans failed to or could not defend Trump's actions but instead engaged in character assassination of a military man , State Department employees and of National Security staff and a staffer on Mike Pence's security advisory staff. They ( Trump fans) attacked the process and conducted character assassination s Why? I guess that they just had no facts to support Trump's innocence sinthey attacked witnesses.
     
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    It’s citizen free press. Really awful journalism.
     
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    Yet so far all the dems have is Vindman who Morrison and his predecessor had little faith in and is the only one on the call that heard a demand that wasn’t their and is now apparently the leaker to the WB.
     
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    Vindman wasn’t a witness for Schiff. He leaked nothing if the person was cleared to be read in.
    Wow you pretty much had that all wrong,
     
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    LOL, all of the witnesses were called by Schiff to begin with and Vindman certainly wasn’t the Republicans witness. Your comment is a joke.
     
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    Its ronstar he can help himself.
     
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    How sad is it that even lefties know this is failing...
     
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    It’s his money maker.
     
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    He nailed it.
     
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    I know LTC Alex Vindman from a Combined US-Russian exercise called Atlas Vision 12 in Grafenwoher, GE. He worked w/the Russian Embassy & I was assigned to the JMTC (Joint...

    ...Multinational Training Command), w/in USAREUR (US Army Europe). He worked coordination w/the Russian 15th Peacekeeping Brigade, & I was in charge of all Simulations planning, as well as assisting the USAREUR Lead Planner as the Senior Military Planner. The following...

    ...account of LTC Vindman's words & actions are completely accurate to the best of my recollection & have been corroborated by others. We interacted on several different occasions throughout the planning cycle, but it was during the actual execution of the exercise, that we...

    ...had an issue relevant to his recent testimony. As stated earlier, Atlas Vision 12 was conducted at JMTC in the VBS2 (Virtual Battle Simulations 2) Classrooms for Simulation. Vindman, who was a Major at the time, was sitting in one of the classrooms talking to the US &...

    ...w/the Russian Soldiers & laugh as if at the expense of the US personnel. It was so uncomfortable & unprofessional, one of the GS employees came & told me everything above. I walked over & sat w/in earshot of Vindman, & sure enough, all was confirmed. One comment truly..

    ...struck me as odd, & it was w/respect to American's falsely thinking they're exceptional, when he said, "He [Obama] is working on that now." And he said it w/a snide 'I know a secret' look on his face. I honestly don't know what it meant, it just sounded like an odd thing to...

    ...say. Regardless, after hearing him bash America a few times in front of subordinates, Russians, & GS Employees, as well as, hearing an earful about globalization, Obama's plan, etc...I'd had enough. I tapped him on the shoulder & asked him to step outside. At that point I...

    ...verbally reprimanded him for his actions, & I'll leave it at that, so as not to be unprofessional myself. The bottom-line is LTC Vindman was a partisan Democrat at least as far back as 2012. So much so, junior officers & soldiers felt uncomfortable around him. This is..

    ...not your professional, field-grade officer, who has the character & integrity to do the right thing. Do not let the uniform fool you...he is a political activist in uniform. I pray our nation will drop this hate, vitriol & division, & unite as our founding fathers intended!

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Jim_Hickman13/status/1190077856065499138
     
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    Vindman is a registered Democrat and was caught bad mouthing the United States overseas. Caught leaking information to the CIA.

    Why did the Ukraine ask him 3 times to be the Minister of Defense? Why was he bad mouthing Americans about the United Nations to Russian officers that were present?

    FBI/DOJ needs to have him arrested.
     
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    Vindman probably doesn't know who the WB is for sure. He may have told an intelligence employee at the WH, but he could not be certain that that person didn't pass the information on to another intelligence person, who was the WB. The WB apparently did talk to someone of Schiff's staff, but that person may not have passed the name on to Schiff. It's possible that the Intelligence IG passed the name onto the DNI, but not necessarily. Only Donald Trump Junior seems to know for sure. Which is curious in itself.
    At any rate, he didn't say today whether he knew or not, only that he wouldn't answer the question.
     
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    Did a Russian officer tell you that?
     
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    Agreed.

    Apparently he has a twin brother working in the white house?
     
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    That's why this entire thread is just BS designed to deflect from what's actually being said. OP should be called on the carpet for posting this crap.
     
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    Those are not Vindman’s words.
     
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    Of course they AREN'T.

    And the "story" in the OP is a Complete MISCHARACTERIZATION that is made up from whole cloth.

    This thread belongs in the Conspiracy Section. :boed:
     
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    I am sure that others have already explained the reason why this is not a lie, but I will do so again.

    Stating, "I do not know the name of the whistleblower" and stating, "I will not reveal the name of the individual in the Intelligence Community to whom I spoke as per the ruling of the chair and advice of counsel" are not contradictory statements. It is entirely possible that the person to whom he spoke is not the whistleblower and unless you have some other proof that the person to whom he spoke was the whistleblower - and Vindman knew that fact - then "I do not know the name of the whistleblower" is not a lie.
     
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    AJ its becoming more apparent that this entire sham impeachment is a complete mischaracterization, and dems will pay at the ballot box.
     
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    Exactly. Even if he has a strong suspicion of who the whistleblower might be.
     

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