Priti Patel

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For those who do not remember Priti Patel was the woman who it is claimed of her own bat visited people in Israel eg Netanyhu against Protocol and had arranged for the British public to contribute for Israel to give medical help to radical Islamists. I put up a thread today already but as I have already found something else on her I thought it better to give her her own thread.

    Here she is managing to stop refugees minors including three British Orphans home to safety.

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20191119-priti-patel-says-syria-orphans-corbyn-security-risk/

    She and her friend Javid must feel sooo big.
     
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    She is a most unpleasant person.
     
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    ...yeah....but.....that's not really true though is it....but hey why let a truck load of crud get in the way of reality....
     
  5. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? You want to provide evidence why MEM is lying.
     
  6. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok, here is another report saying much the same

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...f-british-isis-children/ar-BBWRrdX?li=BBoPRmx

    Now you have made an allegation of lying. One you did without any evidence. Please provide your evidence that these articles are lying and/or that I am lying to report what they say.
     
  7. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am still waiting for your evidence that someone has been lying.

    Here is the information about the planned rescue of the children.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/20/uk-to-repatriate-isis-children-in-syria

    Is this what you had a problem with. Britain bringing back minors from Syria. Do you believe these children are a danger and should be left to die? That appears to be the reasoning of Ms Patel.

    https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/n...inisters-blocked-is-orphans-rescue-from-syria

    so now give some evidence to back up your personal attack and claim that what was present was lies

    or do not expect me ever to believe a word you say again.

    PS. and remember your holier than now talk in another thread about all Britain had to do to end the climate emergency was to put in Fusion Power and how the offered choices like electric cars were just middle class. Guess why we do not put in fusion power - it has not been invented.
     
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  8. The Scotsman

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    Not that I want to cast doubt on such a venerable organ but the premise or tenor of the statement just smacks me as absurd. I mean leaving aside the article for a moment, do you think that such decisions are made in a vacuum; I mean without reference to other stakeholders, police or security services or intelligence agencies or a myriad other internal and external sources? The tenor of the article is that one person existing in an ivory tower makes such announcements out of emotion and spite. That’s my gripe.
    Patel, government and all the various ministries and agencies have a duty of care towards people and to suggest that some arbitrary ruling has been made smacks as just crappy journalism and designed to serve an agenda. So I’m calling it a pile of crud....that’s it....
     
  9. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and because it does not go with your political opinion, you believe that you can come on here and insult saying it is not true. :omfg:

    (I think both the articles I put up said three people refused to allow the children to be brought here. I was talking about Priti as the thread is on her.)

    Councils had already said they were willing to take the children on and make appropriate arrangements for their needs. I would imagine many would go to family members but may still need help recovering from what they have been through.


    https://www.npr.org/2019/10/24/7731...heir-countries-of-origin-meets-stiff-resistan

    You may be scared of under fives, I am not. Indeed even my 11 year old grand daughter has not yet managed to frighten me.

    if you read the whole article you will see they are talking about children from 40 countries being in the camps. I read somewhere that we are one of only two countries who have refused to bring back out our infants/children.

    Again, you may be scared of 0-5 year olds I am not. I think you should look more at the motives of the people who are denying them safety. Of course Ms Patel, who already tried to force the British Public to fund part of the work by the Israelis to help radical Islamists against Assad - a woman who is also a Hindu, a religion which is currently very anti Muslim

    Javid, one of the others whose vote stopped the children/infants coming could not be a more obvious Uncle Tom and recently I have begun too think none too clever. I think he himself is being used because he will delver in this way more than anyone else could or could without uproar.

    Whether or not he himself is just a toff buffoon who believes he should be PM any way, the Tory Party he is running now is the hard right. I would think it is a Godsend to them to have Patel and Javid at hand to do their most dirty work. Has Javid reminded Johnson of his promise during the election for an Independent Inquiry into Islamophobia in the Tory Party. I doubt it. There also was talk of him being bullied soon after Johnson took over.

    No I do not think children of the ages stated are in any way dangerous. I think but am not certain that most countries brought back not only their children but their mothers as well.

    England is sinking into fascism....but there is an election so I will keep my hopes up.
     
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    She is tough - and sadly that is what we need now before civil society breaks down altogether. Around a thousand ex IS fighters have returned to the UK and 'no-body' know where they are. Knife crime, acid attacks and paedo muslim rape gangs have run rampant, unchallenged for many many - too many years now. Infrastructure is at breaking point because in 10 yrs 10 million legal and illegal migrants have entered these Isles - The majority of the immigrant/migrant population hate the indigenous people who will soon become the minority in their/our own lands - at some point soon we are going to have to discuss voluntary repatriation before it is to late.
     
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    Last night although I only heard the end of the conversation I heard Raab saying he was bringing orphans home.....but the BBC only reported he was bringing orphans home. If it is only the ones the UK recognise as orphans that will be four or maybe just the three that London has been demanding be brought back. One of them is a girl of ten. I had seen articles in which Boris had promised to send spider man in if necessary to bring everyone home. I haven't been able to find news on this online so still do not know how many are coming or their ages.

    However I suspect I have found the reason they, even if it is just three or four are coming home. Seems it goes back to the Andrew Marr show on Sunday. This is the Express so Tory friendly.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1...ab-andrew-marr-priti-patel-conservative-syria

    It may be that reports were correct - That Priti and friends decided against. May used to always get her own way on this sort of thing even when our security services did not agree.

    However with Johnsons loud proclamations that he was going to get them home one way or another and him already having gone back on his do or die, it may have been thought that in order to get his fans believeing he is the 'strong leader' they believe they need to keep them safe...they had a rethink.
     
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    OK so it looks like the bit I heard half of the other night was just the three orphans who the people of London have been demanding the return of. The other little ones are still in Syria - and yes they are little ones - they are our children needing protection and we may be choosing just to leave them to die....so I would say it looks like what Raab said after the leaked meeting where Priti and friends demand they not be brought home was just spin and the immediate bringing home of the 3 London orphans did not represent that their policy was any different than to that which had previously been reported.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ed-for-60-isis-children-uk-councils-relatives


    One of the excuses the Government has given for not returning the children is that it is not good to separate them from their Mothers. This of course is very true and work will need to go on to make sure they are able to secure strong attachment with those whose care they go into. However the Government will not allow their Mothers home - even those who left when they themselves were children/ adolescents looking for excitement.. If the Government is leaving their Mothers to die which obviously is something I do not personally agree with...but if the Government has chosen to do this, clearly their Mother's want their children home to have a chance and there is in most cases it would appear families eager to provide them a home and security as well as councils willing and ready to provide any assistance which is necessary - the families of people who went off to Syria were generally distraught.

    Bye the way I was very angry at the time when Theresa May allowed into the UK a man who just the previous week had been telling Egyptians they must go to Syria and die. British Muslims had demanded he not be allowed in but May did not ban him as she has other people whose political position she does not agree with - of course at that time we were openly supporting the 'moderate fighters' who later were discovered to be some version of ISIS/Al Qaeda.
     
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    Bye the way, just in case - I am assuming that the Mother's are wanting their children home - that there is no intention of grabbing them out of their arms. This itself will be a most painful act for them brought about by selfless love.
     
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    Priti Patel strikes me as the kind of person who would unplug your life support machine in order to recharge her phone.
    She would be a big success in Trump's America...if she were white.
     
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    Hoe dare she! Supporting Islamic terrorists is Jeremy Corbyn's job.
     
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    Presuming as I must that you don't know her at a personal level, why do you believe that?
     
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    "A British child becomes homeless every eight minutes, Shelter report finds
    The fact 183 children become homeless every day is a "scandalous" figure, the charity's chief executive says."


    https://news.sky.com/story/british-...y-eight-minutes-shelter-report-finds-11876896

    "Home secretary Priti Patel intervened to block a recent rescue operation to bring British orphans and unaccompanied minors home from Syria, sources have revealed."

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/16/priti-patel-block-rescue-british-isis-children

    Wise decision. That makes a change in today's UK.
     
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