Do you think Joe Biden was corrupt over Ukraine?

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Was Joe Biden corrupt over Ukraine?

  1. Definitely, he was the new William Tweed

    16 vote(s)
    47.1%
  2. It was a clear conflict of interrest and he should have recusd himself

    10 vote(s)
    29.4%
  3. No, it wasn't really a problem

    6 vote(s)
    17.6%
  4. He's as pure the driven snow

    2 vote(s)
    5.9%
  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    Ignoring Trump for a moment, what do you think of Biden's actions over his son and Ukraine?

    Personally I think this was a clear conflict of interest, Burisma hired his son purely to get on his good side as he was spearheading Obama's Ukraine policy, you can't have a US vice president insisting on sacking a prosecutor whilst his son is working for a firm which is part of the corruption problem.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think Biden has it in him to be a 'William Tweed', but I definitely think there was more than just a 'conflict of interest' going on.
     
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    Maybe a quid-pro-quo, bribery.... Also this attack on Trump seems like witness intimidation and obstruction of justice because they are trying to impead an investigation directed by the Federal Government aka the President.
     
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    Think for a minute

    Biden wanted the guy who dropped the investigation into Burisma removed from office, which means that investigation would be opened again

    So please explain how that benefits him?

    BTW sucked in on Russian Troll festy posts
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sons-top-democrats-ukraine-clinton/
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    Snopes is involved in a huge lawsuit, it appears he cheated on his wife, not sure why any one would link to some guy living in a apartment as a fact checker.
     
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    It is not “one guy” :roll:
     
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    I don't believe Hunter Biden was the only Biden that profited from Burisma. I also wonder if Biden was the only Obama administration official who did. Joe Biden isn't the sharpest tack in the box and all he would have had access to were the crumbs. Now I don't have access to the records that prove all this but Epstein didn't kill himself.
     
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    The Obama admin thought so too.
     
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    As has been testified the Burisma investigation was open when Biden made his threat and shelved after. Yovanovitch testified she was perplexed it was stopped.
     
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    Geriatric Joe's stunts in Ukraine were very blatantly and obviously a strong-armed projection of raw, ugly, arrogant power... does that about cover it...?

    One criticism of the OP poll question -- why would you imagine that most of the poorly-educated, largely ignorant American population in 2019 would even have any idea of who the hell "Boss Tweed" was?

    Millennials and Gen Z'ers especially have very little idea of anything that happened in the world before the arrival of the 21st-century.... But, stinking, corrupt Boss Tweed? In 19th-century New York...? Anybody under about the age of 50 probably has no idea what you're referring to.

    [​IMG]. "When I'm reincarnated, I'm going to be Joe Biden!" :twisted:
     
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    When Burisma hired his son, Biden should have recused himself from the chain of command in terms of the Ukraine. Too bad he's not a moral man like Jeff Sessions.

    The problem is that in Washington, they don't view this as corrupt as the rest of us. For example, Nancy Pelosi's son also has major business dealings with Ukraine.
     
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    True that , and you can bet that if it was trump instead of clintons that frequently flew to kiddie bang island that epstein would be alive and well ready to implicate trump . Problem being we will never know the truth because our free press doesnt go after any dems , they are totally off limits . Just look at what we know as obama spying on everyone , yet we barely hear anything about it except it a big conspiracy. When the U.S.A. crumbles , and she will , our "free press" will be a big reason . This link is a fine example of what im talkin about ...

    https://nypost.com/2019/11/20/when-...mp-news-suddenly-becomes-not-worth-reporting/
     
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    Maybe they saw Gangs of New York?
     
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    Isn't it amazing what some people use as a justification for a completely off-base "opinion"?
     
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    Hmm... doubtful. Nobody in "Gangs of New York" but White people, and that would be boring to anybody under 40....
     
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    Wasn't it about Irish immigrants?
     
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    Yes.

    And centered around the Five Points, the kook "nativists" and the draft riots during the Civil War.
     
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    No
    "There is probable cause to have an investigation into Hunter Biden" which could lead to looking into some of his fathers actions too.
     
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    We don't really know the exact turn of events and the Ukraine prosecutor and status of any investigations. That should certainly be part of the cooperative investigation into Burisma, were they bribing Hunter Biden for access into the State Department and get other considerations that needs to be started if it hasn't already.
     
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    Untrue, as there were other people of color in the movie.
     
  21. Pollycy

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    With major roles...? Possibly, but I doubt it. A meretricious point at best. I've never cared much for anything with DiCaprio in it.

    Anyway, back on topic, was Biden's well-known "son-of-a-bitch" stunt in Ukraine corrupt?! Is CO2 an organic molecule necessary for life on this planet...? Well, you'd think that anyone with a functioning mind would know the answers to both of those questions, but, maybe not.... :psychoitc:
     
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    I think that profiting corruption is why any american who was there before last year was there.

    what other reason is there for being there?
     
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    Obama didn't spy on any more than Bush did or tRUMP is doing now.
    Thanks to all the R's who cheered for the Spy Act, aka, the Patriot Act. Don't cry about the other party using a tool the R party wanted and implemented.
     
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    speaking of spying by the government.

    how broad of consensus would there be for repealing the patriot act?

    i'd vote yes
     
  25. william kurps

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    If you want us to take you seriously, say Mr. Obama, Mr. Trump, Mrs Hillary..

    Other wise we think your a political hack.
     

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