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7 Key Moments From Gordon Sondland’s Testimony on Day 4 of Public Impeachment Hearings

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  1. AFM

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    The irony is palpable. ^^^^
     
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    Where does he mention corruption in the phone call? He raised 2 issues, both purely political
     
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    Meh, more of the I-could-shoot-someone-in-the-face-on-5th-ave syndrome on display from the trumpettes. No surprise.

    They are simply immune to facts.
     
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    And even if it’s proven as nonsense in a week, nobody seems to care!
     
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    LOL, the man came into the bank with a mask and a gun, but he never said he was robbing us. No crime!

    This is the best argument that Trumpservatives have been reduced to. LOLOL
     
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    Did the man rob the bank ??
     
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    "Lock Her UP!, Lock Her Up!" Trump FanBoys cried before Hillary was given a trial.
    "Biden is guilty!" Trump FanBoys cried before Biden was given a trial.
    "The Whistleblower is a traitor! He belongs in jail!" Trump Fanboys cried before he was given a trial.

    Just interjecting a quick reality check in this circle jerk.
     
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    A person is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
     
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    Did he get arrested for the attempt ? (FYI, that's a crime too).
     
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    The first issue had to do with interference in the 2016 election. Ukraine is the most corrupt nation in Europe and the new President was surrounded by those who were responsible for this deserved reputation.


    https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf
     
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    Who claimed he attempted to rob the bank ??
     
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    Did he "attempt"? Or are you just presuming that was his intention based on appearance?
     
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    The whistleblower reported the attempt and the House is investigating.
     
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    This sort of highlights the big problem with Trump.

    The guy speaks in such a jumbled word salad of half formed thoughts that it's difficult to interpret just what the **** his intention is. And that's a huge problem for someone who is supposed to be leading a nation. The world literally spends days arguing about what Trump said or implied with every incoherent tweet and utterance. So people just attach whatever meaning makes the most sense to them and we end up with an impeachment hearing. Trump is not a good fit for the office. Being President means being reliable and a calming influence on the country and the world.
     
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    Who is the whistle blower ??

    The House investigation is a banana republic kangaroo court with no attempt at fairness and due process. It is a despicable attempt by the Democrats to use the impeachment process to remove Trump (who received 63 million votes) from office on a completely partisan vote.
     
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    So... Lull them into complacency? Don't rock the polical boat? Talk softly and whisper Sweet Nothings while clubbing America with a big stick like Obama?

    Lot of people had enough of that chit.
     
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    There is such an entity you would like, it's called CNN. Although they aren't making a killing anymore.
     
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    But no one robbed the bank or threatened to rob the bank. And the bank didnt even know it was being robbed.

    What you’re actually referring to is a black guy in a hoody walks into a bank and a bunch of racist people assume he was going to rob it. The guy then takes his hood off and reveals its Lebron James making a million$ deposit. :)
    And after once it’s revealed no one was doing anything wrong, a bunch of people can’t admit they just assumed the guy was up to no good because....feelings and biased perceptions.

     
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    Sondland's testimony was damning to Sondland and helped President Trump in massive ways. Sondland leaving out the the most important material information of the "No Quid Pro Quo" phone call, where Trump tells him to tell the Ukrianians to, "Just do the right thing. We don't want anything", destroyed Schiff and the Democrats narrative and they should just wrap this up. They have nothing. Sondland exposed himself as a dishonest player and tried to hide key information that exonerated Trump from his 23 page opening testimony. What a joke he turned out to be.
     
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    Actually only certain people argue over what he means, because they have TDS.
     
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    63,000,000 understand everything he says.
     
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    The problem lies with the corrupt media and other Democrat operatives who constantly lie about whatever any Republican says or does.

    It's so bad that I automatically disbelieve anything that puts a Republican or independent conservative in a bad light.
     
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    This can only be true if Trump acted corruptly - that is, with a demonstrably corrupt intent.

    The term “corruptly” sets a demanding standard. It requires a concrete showing that a person acted with an intent to obtain an “improper advantage for [him]self or someone else, inconsistent with official duty and the rights of others.”

    Can you concretely demonstrate said corrupt intent ?
     
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    We have a constitutional mechanism to take care of this, and it comes around every 4 years.
     
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    And millions more voted against him than for him, lol
     
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