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WATCH LIVE: Public Impeachment Hearings (Hill/Holmes)

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by MrTLegal, Nov 21, 2019.

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  1. TurnerAshby

    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    Thats true, ideally we would keep track and inform their country's government to cease those types of actions
     
    TurnerAshby, Nov 21, 2019
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    I love the Holmes description of Yermak shrugging when asked if they were going through with the CNN interview.... that visual just speaks volumes to me...

    "What the hell do you want us to do? Trump has our balls in a vice and we're gonna do what we have to do"..

    That could be a key scene in the eventual movie...
     
    Egoboy, Nov 21, 2019
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    My opinion is most of our presidents are scary based on their actions....

    The thought that does cause me concern is how he can negotiate high level deals if this is the amount of critical thinking they have.

    I'll vote for one Democrat running, Andrew Yang
     
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  4. TurnerAshby

    TurnerAshby Well-Known Member

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    thats not good for Trump what she just said about the nature of the call
     
    TurnerAshby, Nov 21, 2019
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Holmes kind of stands out repeating the dem narrative and calling some witnesses names using Schiff’s language.
     
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    Best of luck... hope you get your $1,000 dollars each month...

    And don't you dare equate the Obama "critical thinking" with the Trump "critical thinking", because it's not a level playing field.... You may disagree with the results of what Obama did, but few can criticize that he put the requisite effort into it...

    Now we get "Talk to Rudy"... American foreign policy summarized in 3 words, that several have testified to.

    Talk to Rudy...
     
    Egoboy, Nov 21, 2019
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    I think Dr. Hill comes across more neutral so anything she says damaging hurts more
     
    TurnerAshby, Nov 21, 2019
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    Nothing new. The dems keep interjecting Bidens name but none of the witnesses have other than presuming.
     
    Hoosier8, Nov 21, 2019
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    I don't agree with Obama's policies but he is a helluva tactician
     
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    It's almost like the dem narrative is based on eyewitness testimony...
     
    MrTLegal, Nov 21, 2019
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    Trump himself interjected Bidens name.

    That's one of the primary reasons why the transcript of that phone call is so damning. Without that transcript, Republicans could maintain at least some semblance of plausible deniability that the requested investigation into Burisma Oil was not based on some effort to investigate his domestic political opponent. The transcript proves that Trump cared quite specifically about Hunter and Joe Biden.

    Although, to be fair, even Burisma Oil was pretty obvious on its own given that it was one specific company of all the thousands in Ukraine and Giuliani and other Trump allies pushing the Hunter Biden/Burisma Oil link for months on TV.
     
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    Do you agree that Hill comes across more neutral so of the two her negative testimony hurts more than Holmes ?
     
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    It's the accent... throws everybody off...

    Reminds me of the scene from the classic "Horrible Bosses 2" - When Chris Pine calls the pretty English girl in and gets her to say "Al-U-Min-ium"...

    Not that Dr. Hill is the Aluminium girl...
     
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    If you only consider opinion and not fact.
     
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    Trump? Is there another reason to ask about crowdstrike?
     
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    Not sure what it hurts, she keeps treading around the dem clown show narrative and as Nunes pointed out, wrong in her opening statement.

    The testimony today proves Hills claim that Russia wants to divide America. Well played dems putting America through this.
     
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    Jennifer Anniston in Horrible Bosses...that was an awesome role. Oof
     
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    Mr Holmes testimony about having lunch with Sondland while in Ukraine and overhearing a phone call has one very disturbing unseen fact. Mr Holmes testified that Sondland called President Trump nonchalantly during lunch and that Trump spoke so loudly that he could hear much of the conversation. I'm surprised that Mr Holmes didn't hear Trump say "What the hell are you calling me at 5 in the morning for?"
     
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    Among whom? :D
     
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    Well, why the hell is he TAKING the call at 5 in the morning for? It's not like Sondland has a DIRECT line to Trump...

    But Kiev is 7 hours ahead of DC and the lunch was between 1 and 2 pm, so it's more likely in the 6:30 time frame. Our Tweeter in chief is often rising from hibernation by then...
     
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    Got 5:1 odds that says Trump had already tweeted a dozen memes that morning before the phone call.
     
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    Goldman needs to let her tell the story her way... guide her, but do NOT interrupt her...
     
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    But a great finish by Goldman and Holmes... No other conclusion could be reached...
     
    Egoboy, Nov 21, 2019
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    I don't know why more people aren't talking about the deal Rick Perry made for his oil friends in Texas, who just happen to be his political financial backers, to take over management of the largest oil company in Ukraine. Ukraine awarded the contract to Perry’s supporters little more than a month after the U.S. energy secretary attended Zelenskiy’s May inauguration. In a meeting during that trip, Perry handed the new president a list of people he recommended as energy advisers. One of the four names was his longtime political backer Michael Bleyzer.

    "A week later, Bleyzer and his partner Alex Cranberg submitted a bid to drill for oil and gas at a sprawling government-controlled site called Varvynska. Their proposal was millions of dollars lower than their only competitor, according to internal Ukrainian government documents obtained by The Associated Press. But their newly created joint venture, Ukrainian Energy, was awarded the 50-year contract because a government-appointed commission determined they had greater technical expertise and stronger financial backing, the documents show."

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/after-push-from-perry-backers-got-huge-gas-deal-in-ukraine

    Seriously, how much more shady can that deal be?
     
    HumbledPi, Nov 21, 2019
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    People willing to put money on the line betting about that outcome.
     
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