Trump plans to designate Mexican cartels as terror groups, stirring outcry

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  1. White MAGA Man

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    Trump is taking great strides to protecting American sovereignty. This move is prompting outcry within the Mexican government. Why? Because once you establish the cartels as terrorists you can go after them, their property, their money, and their associates. They know this.
    But you should expect the cartels to grasp what is coming, and then take the logical step....target US politicians and law enforcement officials. If any Politicians die from cartel activity, hopefully that would speed up the wall from 5 years to finishing to 3 months. It would become the new Manhattan project. So this is going open up a pretty bloody period of conflict along the border. Again, President Trump is doing the right thing.

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    What American citizens could possibly be against this?
     
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    Dang. What a racist. He must hate Mexicans. :) Democrats need to rise up and resist against stopping all these Dreamers from coming here and starting new lives.
     
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    Ha, wait. I'm sure the usual suspects will chime in soon.
     
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    You have two separate threads on this.
     
  6. White MAGA Man

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    Oh sh*t, I do! Well I went out on the town last night to a few nightclubs with some old friends in for the holidays and we got pretty tanked. I guess when I came in I made the thread but don't remember. Anyway maybe a mod can delete the old one and keep this one. How do you contact a moderator?
     
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    1. Hmmmm. I see nothing here that can be compared to the Manhattan project. I think your imagination is out-of-bounds.

    2. I understand that classifying drug cartels as "terrorist groups" can be a good thing but wouldn't it be necessary to prove the case for each cartel individually?

    3. You say the terrorist classification would make it possible to "go after them, their property, their money, and their associates" but that would be true as long as it is on U.S. soil, right? I mean I don't think the U.S. will be legally justified in raiding Mexico without U.N. approval.

    4. Is Trump "doing the right thing"? More often than not, I think.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That depends. If the plan is illegal then I can imagine many Americans being against it. Would you blame them?
     
  9. White MAGA Man

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    We seized El Chapo's money and he was caught in Mexico, then extradited to the United States. No reason we couldn't do it with other cartels.
     
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    I understand that but was his money in Mexican banks or in America ones?
     
  11. White MAGA Man

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    Don't know but good question. I'll research it.
     
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    Good idea.
     
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    Too bad he can't do the same with Antifa and BLM :p


    It's kind of an odd way to sign a post, but whatever. What's the problem, white men of European heritage can't support the President? Is he supposed to be too busy apologizing for being white and male, and paying reparations, coddling snowflakes, and knitting a p*ssy hat instead?
     
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    ....maybe it just means he's not 1/1024th indian? or pretending to be from Kenya when it's convenient? *shrug*
     
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    How about Americans concerned about actual terrorist groups who will presumably see anti-terrorist resources spread even thinner?

    Drug Cartels aren’t terrorist groups by definition, though it’s perfectly possible for them to also engage in terrorism. They are major international criminal organisations which should be dealt with on the basis of what they actually are and do. Simply declaring “Those guys are terrorists!” won’t change anything, it just makes a vote-winning headline.
     
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    Since the cartels are known to target opposing politicians and civilians, it does make them terrorist.
    If they strictly only deal in drugs and violence it would make them criminals, but since they're now targetting politicians they've moved on to terrorism.
     
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    I mean I feel like that is true, but I'm not going to denigrate a political outlook based on a few people.
     
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    Use the word Snowflake a lot that will do it!
     
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    They are very much so by definition Terrorists..

    Terrorist
    Ask any Mexican applying for asylum in to the U.S. ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    So its all puffery..
     
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    Drug cartels are the principal cause mention by the asylum seekers as to why they want to go to the US. As such, those cartels have gone beyond being strictly criminals and now have political impact. They also target politicians. This makes them on par to any other terrorist group like Isis or the Taliban, the later also selling drugs to finance themselves.
     
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    No, because their purpose for existing is to make money by selling drugs and they commit violence to achieve that aim. Some will also commit violence with the intention to influence political decisions and those could well be defined as terrorist acts but that doesn't automatically render all cartels terrorist organisations by definition.

    More significantly, my point is that applying that definition achieves less than nothing on it's own, since it just lumps them under the already diverse and over-stretched anti-terrorism efforts. Wouldn't it be better to define drug cartels as drug cartels and develop focused and dedicated policies to deal with them directly?
     
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    And we did it without calling him a terrorist
     
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    How does being proud of 'White European Heritage' equal a White Supremacist?
     
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    Forgive my ignorance, and perhaps I missed something in the article, but what is actually being done other than the designation?
     

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