Thieves steal priceless German jewels, as guards watch and there's nothing they can do

or they could suffer the permanent destruction of a national treasure.

That's the downside.

It wouldn't necessarily encourage thefts. The thieves are already likely to get money from the sale of the those jewels, after the metal has been melted down and the diamonds recut to be unrecognizable.
If the police don't have any leads within the first few weeks, maybe they should just offer to pay out to the criminals. Those jeweled items intact are worth far more to the German state than they would be to the criminals, who would likely have to break them down to sell and get any money.

If the thieves are likely to get that money anyway, and the police are unlikely to ever catch them, why not just pay them?

 

sentimental bs is a waste of time & monies... those jewels are nothing meaningless objects in the grand scheme... germany will still be germany with or without those frivilous items.

 

Germany is rapidly losing its cultural identity. I don't think you understand the importance of a national identity living in a nation that has an identity stretching back many hundreds of years.

When August the Strong amassed these jewels, the US was only a tiny little fledgling colony.

These jewels are also very symbolic of a former glory era in the German states, when they controlled other surrounding areas in Europe and were a center of arts and culture.

 

oh contrare, i have a great appreciation & understanding of heritage, i just don't believe in 'worshipping' material objects as the objects themselves have no bearing on heritage...

 

That heritage is going to be all but gone in a couple decades. Recorded history, and those physical objects, are going to be all the past nation has left to leave to posterity.

You'd really have to be either very spiritual or irreverent not to give a hoot.

 

ya. that's been said, I assume they already had a post theft plan. otherwise why do it?

 

Obviously they are not of any great importance or that valuable if they were so easily taken.

 

Such is ultimately the price that is paid when a nation voluntarily decides to value unchecked and illegal immigration above all else. All because it was decided that having pride in a nation is considered something to be ashamed of.

 

In this case legal immigration. Those thieves are likely from Eastern Europe. Germany is bound to let them in because of the EU's freedom of movement policy they're imposing on all the member states. Look at all the threats the UK got when they tried to pull out of this freedom of movement deal. EU leaders said they'd ruin the UK economy, put up high tariffs and kick them out of the trade zone.

 

Attitudes in Germany haven't really caught up with the current reality. Germany used to be a really low crime society. Something like this would be really rare and not expected.
In many other higher crime countries, more security measures would have been taken.
Also Dresden is more a smaller provincial backwater these days, in Eastern Germany, not really an international destination (i.e. not so many migrants and crime). A smaller quiet city with more "community". They probably weren't expecting this. Though in retrospect they should have.

 

Also, just to be aware, the legal situation in most parts of Germany (and many other parts of Europe) is an intruder can break into your home, start carting off your possessions, and if you shoot the thief to try to stop him, you are guilty of deadly assault or murder, and you will spend much more time in prison than the robber.

I guess there was likely some carry-over of this mentality to that museum.

 

Then the leaders of the European Union are engaging in terrorism against their individual members.

 

Information is now available about who the perpetrators were.

German police find loot stolen from Dresden museum
Investigators found a "considerable part" of items stolen from Dresden's Green Vault in 2019. Police and the public prosecutor's office said 31 individual items or pieces of items were seized on Friday night. The items were recovered as part of court proceedings against several suspects, authorities said.
The six suspects, aged between 22 and 28, are accused of severe gang theft and arson. All of them allegedly belong to Berlin's "Remmo" clan.

During their chase, police said that the suspects were members of the so-called "Remmo clan", who are notorious for ties to organized crime.
The Remmos belong to the Mhallami ethnic group, primarily native to southern Turkey and Lebanon. They had fled war-torn Lebanon and came to Europe in the 1980s.

German police find loot stolen from Dresden museum - DW - December 17 2022

 

agree, and if the guards are not paid enough to guard a billion dollar piece... losers weepers

 

Thieves steal priceless German jewels, as guards watch and there's nothing they can do.

So what is the purpose of hiring security people?

 

Who exactly are the "losers"?
You mean the society who decided to implement laws that made it too difficult for this museum, which housed a national treasure, to be able to have armed guards who would be able to do anything?

I'm sure there might have been some way to stay in compliance with the laws and have armed security, but I'm also guessing that would have cost a lot of money, more money than the museum thought they could afford. (For example, the museum could have gone to the police services who could have contracted out two officers to serve as guards, but that would have required paying much higher salaries and paying for the administrative expenses and so forth)
Perhaps the museum even feared the possibility of an expensive lawsuit if they employed armed guards.

 

the ones that underpaid the guards

 

The money ultimately is coming form the taxpayers, and the treasure was owned by the German people (theoretically).

Progressives on the Left always think the solution to any problem is to throw more money at it, often giving no thought to how their own policies resulted in increased prices.

I'll ask you: Why do you think the guards at this museum did not have guns? Do you really think the reason was all just because the people who ran the museum were stupid? Or might it have had something to do with government laws that would have made it too cumbersome and expensive to hand ordinary employed workers guns.

 

well, if you want guards to risk their lives, you have to pay them a salary commensurate of such risk

I think all guards should have guns

 

No, I don't think that's what this issue was about. The guards were not going to go into that situation without guns, since they didn't know if the criminals might be carrying guns. Things were dark and they could not see very well.

 

agree, but this was the post I replied too - as you can see, I agreed with the previous posted and added in that pay is important as well