Abortionists killing babes after birth? Infanticide okay?

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  1. Iron_Merc

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    I do mourn over the loss of over 60,000,000 babies. Untold devastation.

    To put this into perspective we need to look at the nuclear finish to World War II.

    The atomic bomb killed between 90,000 -146,000 people in Hiroshima

    AND

    Killed 39,000 - 80,000 people in Nagasaki;

    Suppose we use the highest estimates for both

    And the number of deaths is 226,000 - doesnt even come close!

    And we now know that Abortion is just another iteration of that poisonous ideology, creeping ever so quietly into our nation.


    Get my drift? Abortion has killed more children than the atomic bombs that devastated two cities. That should rattle your perspective a little bit.

    This really boils down to a few simple statements / questions

    I see zygotes as the prelude to personhood and should be protected. The natural order of procreation does not include abortion, the natural order is pregnancy then birth - this is why its hilarious when you post "you are forcing the women to gestate/get pregnant" because it's its almost like you think pregnancy is a bad thing. And Im sure you do.

    Is the left taking advantage of a defenseless life form?
    In other words, is Planned Parenthood following the letter of the law, or do they exploit the laws?

    They definitely exploit.
     
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    Even dogs have an instinct to preserve babies

     
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    He was saving it for supper ….:)
     
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    Why do you think that the only people in history who died were killed in wars???

    Here's where "learning" should have come in....abortion is NOT "creeping into our nation", abortion has been around for thousands of years...





    That is a totally illogical conclusion to think women having rights and the freedom and liberty to CHOOSE means one think pregnancy is a bad thing.

    NO ONE SAID PREGNANCY IS BAD.

    Taking away women's right to their own body, a basic human right that YOU enjoy, is BAD.


    Twisting words and presenting illogical conclusions is not "learning".










    HOW ?




    Posts 1572 and 1573 ??? ;)
     
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    you sound so silly with your comparison. I have toUse the acorn analogy again..
    If there is a forest fire and thousands of trees are destroyed do you count the number of acorns as well? You seem to care more about zygotes. Just think if we had 60 million more people who couldn’t afford children.....the anti choice would fight against them getting welfare. Life begins at conception and ends at birth for people like you
     
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    does their instinct include zygotes?You don’t seem to be able to separate ZEFs from children..you personify them
     
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    :) I do believe those with no answers to inconvenient questions have "left the building" :)
     
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    NO im still here. I've just been dealing with and researching the two coup attempts that are going on right now on planet earth.

    Wont have time to respond to abortion debate questions for a little while well I get my affairs in order. PS you should be doing the same.

    PM me for details if you wish.
     
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    There is no coup happening in US politics anymore than there was one in Nixon's time.
     
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    You dehumanize them to justify dismemberment in the womb.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    :) I do believe those with no answers to inconvenient questions have "left the building" :)

    :) And you thought I was referring to you because you have "no answers to inconvenient questions" ???



    You: """I've just been dealing with and researching the two coup attempts that are going on right now on planet earth.

    Wont have time to respond to abortion debate questions for a little while well I get my affairs in order. PS you should be doing the same"""


    :roflol::roll: "Best Excuse From An Anti-Choicer On Not Being Able To Defend Their Stance " ever !!!!


    OOOHHHH, the Weird Space Aliens are coming !!! Help ! Help!
     
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    How is calling a human ZEF a ZEF dehumanizing it?


    No one has to justify abortion...it's legal.....

    Is calling a teenager a teenager dehumanizing them ?

    Is calling your pancreas a pancreas are you dehumanizing it ?

    When people say their dog is a member of the family does it turn into a human ??
     
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    oh it’s quite different today!
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    I like the zygote term - but do not support late term abortion. Not sure what one has to do with the other though since in the late term the zygote no longer exists.
     
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    Your argument is based on a false premise. Abortion - in the vast majority of instances - happens prior to the existence of a baby - and you can not prove otherwise.

    The rest of your post is based on the presumption that your original claim is True, but you have not proven this claim.
     
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    Abortion has never killed a single child. There are thousands of living, breathing children that will never see the inside of a loving, permanent home. Is your concern for human life limited to feeling bad or will you be adopting?
     
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    As long as their is no law that would incarcerate anyone who would not undergo abortion then it's fine, everyone still has the choice to keep their babies.
     
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    Abortionists killing babes after birth? Infanticide okay?
    This is total BS. Abortion is prohibited after the second trimester, when the fetus becomes capable of self-sustained life. After that point, abortion becomes murder anywhere in the U.S. No abortions occur after birth. . .none. . .period. Such a case would NOT be an abortion. It would be murder.
     
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    Stop preaching!

    Find the law in whichever state
    , and reference it here (by Internet)!



    In most developed countries, an abortion is considered "Murder in the 1st Degree" if done before a "period of consideration" (typically two-months). Go look for whatever law exists where you live!

    In France, where I live, after two-months of pregnancy an abortion is "murder in the first degree" if a woman requests it by a practicing doctor. (Oh yes, the practicing physician WILL tell the police. (One cannot hide their identity in Europe. It is given to you at birth and continues within an official file for the rest of your life. Which will be closed upon one's death.)

    Iow, the doctor rightfully will refuse to abort (because of the law) if the infant is more than two-months old. Because, then, it is the doctor who responsible for the act-of-abortion, and the woman is considered a "willing accomplice".

    But if a woman decides to end her pregnancy after the limit of two-months from the date of inception she will be tried for murder and whoever actually accomplishes the act will be considered by law an accomplice. Any practicing doctor would lose their licence ...
     
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    Here such decisions are between woman and doctor.
     
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    What is the divide between "foetus" and "baby"
    What do you think of doctors injecting poison into the beating heart of a baby/foetus,
    sucking out its brains and then pulling the foetus/baby out, either whole or in bits?
    Shouldn't this be televised so everyone understands what is going on?
     
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    Neck beard? Is that a thing?
     
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    What I think of what you describe is that it is a sick fantasy dreamed up by the anti abortion crowd To describe a procedure now banned in the USA and only used in rare and exceptional circumstances where the foetus was incompatible with life
     
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    So....... how common is medical tourism”?

    COVID is going to cause a major population explosion firstly because women will not have the contraception access due to strain on the health care industry, locked at home with nothing else to do and limited travel access
     
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