Is Anyone Happy with TrumpCare?

I’m from the government and I’m here to help you...

 

Look...buddy... If just "winning the discussion" is the only thing that matters to you, you're going to have to do much more than just pat yourself on the back every three seconds.

You want a poster saying that they don't contribute to the healthcare system? Here. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-with-trumpcare.565057/page-2#post-1071211673

Now... all that is irrelevant. As far as the matter discussed here I have shown my research. And I have responded to your arguments as my research indicates. If you have anything to say about my arguments, address them...

I stand by every word I have said. Not by your misguided interpretation. I'm not even going to bother anymore to respond to anything here that doesn't address facts relevant to the discussion.

Are there any here?

My error? I'm answering directly to your statement by quoting the article that you brought into this discussion.

I don't even need to make arguments anymore. All I need to do is quote.

So in response to my statement: "Only in an extremely limited number of cases."

I quote your response: "No. In all cases such as YOUR scenario."

And I quote the article you submitted:

"Survivors usually aren't responsible for debts, but there are exceptions"
...
"In most cases, the answer is no. Exceptions can exist, such as if you're the surviving spouse and you live in a community property state, or if you cosigned on a particular debt, but for the most part, heirs don't "inherit" debt."

There is no room for error if all I do is quote. So my job is done.

Thanks for playing...

 

Inheritors can inherit debt. It happens frequently when the inheritance is left in the form of a trust. Been there, done that.

 

We simply must stop using the term “insurance” in these discussions. You don’t want insurance. What you want cannot be called insurance. Insurance, by definition, is obligated to cut outlying risks. Your auto insurance is not obligated to insure folks with 3 DUI’s and $150,000 of claims in three years. And you wouldn’t want your auto insurance company to insure anyone like that.

For the love of dog, if we don’t want insurance let’s stop using the term.

 

Oh boy. I ask for a quote where someone doesn’t pay their bills and you give me a quote about not buying insurance or paying a fine. You have to be kidding me.

It’s not irrelevant because you used falsehoods to create a false narrative. You claimed posters admitted to not paying bills. They did not. Opting out of insurance and not paying your bills are two totally different unrelated things. Nobody here is dumb enough to fall for your bait and switch.

Your misstatements are relevant. It’s telling you don’t think they are.

Yes your error. You do not understand the difference between survivors and estates. As a businessman you probably ought to rectify that. If not for your sake, for the sake of your heirs if you have any.

Survivors are not estates. They are survivors. I can’t believe your intentional disregard of facts at this point. I literally explained the difference to you. I link and article that also explains the difference. You still don’t understand. The article is correct. I’m correct. Heirs don’t inherit debt. Survivors don’t inherit debt. The debt is paid out of the estate. Always. It’s the law.

Authoritarianism may be a game to you. It isn’t to me. Thanks for exposing the depths authoritarians are willing to go to get their way. It’s truly appreciated. It’s the only reason I engage in discussions like this.

 

The law allows insurance companies to refuse patients who have an "unreasonable amount of risk".

For example, they don't have to insure a stuntman for injuries suffered from stunts. Prior to the ACA "pre-existing conditions" which include family histories was included in that. So, insurance companies were able to protect themselves lawsuits for wrongfully dropping patients by hiding behind loopholes in the law

 

For the thousandth time, our body our choice

 

Still trying to get people to pay for others irresponsible behavior?

 

But, but, but....that’s different! Stop being logical.

 

I work my backside off to get Cadillac coverage. You can have what I have too, you can work your backside off and get what I have too.

 

So start an insurance firm that insures stuntmen and people with pre-existing conditions. Problem solved.

 

Trump's promised national "something terrific!" healthcare that covers "everybody!" at "less cost!" has some dancing in the streets.

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Well... you would need to ask that from somebody who claimed otherwise. Not from me.

Don't tell me that's what all this has been about.

Quote.

In that case you are "correcting" your own source. Because all I'm doing is quoting that. However, your phrase is funny anyway. It's like saying "You don't understand the difference between Ice Cream and Football"

That reminds me of something I have never quite understood: Do you happen to know why you can get in trouble if you call somebody a fascist, even when they themselves admit to it; but not if you call somebody an "authoritarian" despite the fact that it's made up nonsense? And I don't mean necessarily in the forum but... in general.

 

I'm not getting "others" to pay. You are! Myself... I'm already paying for it. And you're enjoying the benefit of me paying.

 

Nope your are trying to get others to pay for irresponsible behaviors in life, it's the same with car insurance why should I pay for a person who talks on a cell phone and ends up getting in in a crash.

 

And who do you think ends up with the bill for "irresponsible behaviors in life"?

Who says you have to? You can live without a car. Not so much without health.

 

Prove everybody goes to a doctor? I sure haven't in like 40 years ( not counting company mandated physicals)

 

It's a shame the Democrats stand in the way of that.

 

And, of course, you were born at home using a midwife, and when you die you plan on disposing of your body so no doctor needs to examine you to issue a death certificate, right?

Who the hell cares if you've been to the doctor in 40 years or not?

 

I was born with a hospital bill of $185 bucks, I still have the receipt that I paid my dad back in cash, once again why are you trying to force me to pay for other people's poor choices in life?

I have no control over them in America if they want to eat cheeseburgers and french fries all day long or jump off a cliff..

It's a free country, so pay for it yourself.

 

You make it almost too easy. You prove my case every time. What would we do without you?

Stick around!

 

Make what too easy? Youre still not getting in my wallet. The Trump E.O. made sure of it for now

I refuse to subsidize irresponsible behaviors.


Pay for it yourself.

 

Q.E.D.

 

I love this...

quod erat demonstrandum

Once again why should I pay for irresponsible behavior's

And why you posting in Latin?

 

Republicans, for two full years in control of the Executive, Senate, and House (all having boasted for years that they would "immediately!" repeal and replace 'ObamaCare') never introduced the promised TrumpCare ("something terrific!" that covers "everybody!" at "less cost!")

Your pretending it was Democrats is less credible than if you were to claim it was caused by evil, distractive elves cavorting in Trump's big boy panties.