Trump says China trade deal might have to wait for 2020 election

Trump says China trade deal might have to wait for 2020 election

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-have-to-wait-for-2020-election-idUSKBN1Y7134

LONDON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said a trade agreement with China might have to wait until after the U.S. presidential election in November 2020, denting hopes of a quick resolution to a dispute that has weighed on the world economy.

“I have no deadline, no. In some ways, I think I think it’s better to wait until after the election with China,” Trump told reporters in London, where he was due to attend a meeting of NATO leaders.

“In some ways, I like the idea of waiting until after the election for the China deal. But they want to make a deal now, and we’ll see whether or not the deal’s going to be right; it’s got to be right.”
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The right actually believed that Trump was going to kick China's ass in new trade talks, that was laughable. China has Trump's balls in their back pocket and they have the upper hand, they have always had the upper hand. We can just keep shoveling taxpayer entitlements into the hands of farmers whose livelihoods are being threatened by these tariffs.

Oh and, watch the stock market react today. It's not going to be pretty for anyone that has a 401k or is holding stock.

 

Who cares what the stock market does in a week or two? The market goes up and down. I support tulsi for president, and I hope Trump stands firm both in his tacit support for the pro democracy movement in Hong Kong and trying to unravel 30years of neglect in our trade with China.

 

Of course you would support Tulsi Gabbard, she's as close to being a Russian tool as an American can be. The right gives plenty of credit to Trump when the stock market is soaring, right?

 

Tulsi has been very disappointing. I thought she was smarter.

 

The right gives credit to Trump for the stock markets gains over the last 30 months. It does not give him credit for one week bumps or dips in the market.

And tell me how Tulsi is a Russian tool? Because she does not want us to drop out of the arms treaty that Trump pulled us out of, and is against a new arms race with Russia.

As a lifelong democrat who has only voted for 3 republicans in 45 years of voting, I am dismayed by the McCarthyistic attacks by neo-libs on the left against anyone who questions the bush/Clinton/Obama interventionist foreign policy. Yeah lets kill some more of our best so that defense contractors and multinationals can make trillions.

 

In what way is she disappointing. Because unlike Clinton and Obama who never met a war they didn't like. She is calling out the dems being in bed with the MIC just as the republicans are. The democrats need a about face from the free health care for illegals, open borders, throw the blacks in jail, abortions for birth control in the 3rd trimester, and safe spaces.

Tulsi earned 1/2 of her college credit in a tent in a desert in a foreign country. She understands that the college industry is raking the kids over. But she thinks student loan borrowers owe that money and have some responsibility for it. She believes a nation needs secure borders. She thinks Russia gate was a joke, but Russian interference in out election was real.

 

Tulsi claimed that Obama and Trump both support al Qaeda. She's a flake.

 

They have both allowed US weapons sold to SA to be funneled to those terrorists. Please understand that captured weapons have serial numbers, this isn't rocket science. Kurds have taken American weapons from fighters that were sold to the Kingdom.

 

That doesn't mean the Saudis supplied them. In 2011 and 2012 the SAG launched a huge campaign to keep Saudis from going to fight in Syria saying that it would only hurt the Syrian people. You should follow the Arab news which Tulsi obviously does not.

 

The Russians are likely trying to manipulate her, and to manipulate other Americans using her as a tool.

It’s well known that she has significant support on social media from Russian-linked accounts. That’s not her fault, but neither we nor she should pretend it doesn’t exist.

And look at what she did when Clinton criticized her? A woman running in the Democratic Presidential primary went on Tucker Carlson, one of the more extreme Fox shows, to return the criticism of the previous Democratic nominee in harsh and petulant terms. Does that look like someone who’s committed to the Democratic party and really isn’t thinking about a third party run? Does it look like someone who couldn’t be manipulated by a dedicated propaganda campaign? Russia wants nothing more than someone like Tulsi Gabbard to run as a third party candidate.

After her private meeting and 'unplanned' personal meeting with Bashar al-Assad after which she criticized Assad's enemies and after the Carlson appearance, it's easy to see how susceptible she may be to manipulation by Russia.

 

I have a hard time believing Trump would actually put the tariffs on the last 150 billion in trade. Those tariffs would include consumer goods. A sure way to hurt your reelection prospects.
I'm still betting on him declaring victory very soon based on --- nothing.

 

He's threatening a 100% tariff on France and Macron vows that France will retaliate. The markets are reacting to fears of a trade war. Dow - 405.79 Nasdaq - 101.

The jitters in the stock market today are also based on Trump's comment that the trade deal with China may wait until after the election.

In the meeting in London with Macron, live on television, Trump stated that he has a good relationship with Turkey and with Erdogan. At that point Macron nearly jumped out of his chair. "How is this possible? To be a member of the alliance, to work with office to buy from others, to be integrated then to buy the S400 from Russia? Technically it's not possible." Trump scoffed and let out a smile. Macron knows very well that either Trump is naive by siding with Turkey and Russia, or Trump just doesn't care and he'll side with U.S. adversaries rather than with allies.

This is absolutely shameful. I'm so ashamed of the policies the U.S. has taken since Trump took office.

 

If I was China I would also wait until after the 2020 election, because on the slim change any democrat gets elected China will benefit greatly in trade negotiations. There won't be any trade negotiations, any Democratic president will lift all added tariffs and duty's and bow down and kiss the Peoples Republic of China's ass. There is no reason for China to negotiate in good faith until after the election.

 

Yeah, it will be like a little $500 tax cut.
I'm ready.

 

She is not committed to the dem party of today! That party abandoned the working class base and is just as corrupted by big money as the mainstream republicans (tea party types excluded).

And what is so wrong that she has admirers in the kremlin. She does not want to start up another arms race and spend trillions more over the next ten years and rather spend that money here.
How are the russians trying to manipulate her?
Clinton as sec of state was a total disaster witness Syria and Libya. She is an interventionist and a confrontationist. she conspired with party hacks to keep Sanders from challenging her. She is pissed at the Russians for hacking the Dem email server which showed how corrupt she is. AND I voted for her.

Just because she challenges the MIC and the multinational corporations who are the only ones who benefit from these wars.

First she did not have a private meeting with Assad, she was also accompanied by Rep Kucinich. Are you upset that Pelosi also met with Assad? and you don't think Assad's enemies have reason to be taken to task- Guys like Hezbollah, Isis, Alqueda etc. And If you have not realized 1/2 the nation voted republican last election. She goes on Carlson because he like she no longer wants our military anywhere in the Mideast.

You like the mainstream news media who are tools of wall street and multinational corporations. ​

 

he needs something in October of 2020 in the way of a foreign policy 'win' Its either the China front or the North Korea front or both. Whatever he announces will be a loser. They both know that they have the ace and the trump card(pun intended) in their hands.
Donald hopes nobody will have sufficient time to analyze his tentative agreement and tell the voters what a pile of feces it is, before election day.

 

Fourth month of recession in the manufacturing sector.
Manufacturing index below when trump was elected.
$23,000,000,000.00 debt, $187,000.00 per taxpayer
Largest deficit ever outside of recessions
Three fed rate reductions
Economy growth stagnating
Largest corporate debt load in the history of the nation
New tariffs announced on steel
Massive farm bailout ongoing

And now there is so much winning that the major trade deal that was going to be easy to win has been pushed back till after the election???

 

China wants to hold out for a better deal in case Trump doesn't win in 2020. Trump will have more leverage after the elections.

 

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In 2009, Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House and the third-ranking elected official in the United States. She was most senior American politician to visit the country since relations between the United States and Syria faltered in 2003. Her visit was highly criticized by President Bush and other administration officials, who wanted to isolate Syria diplomatically. This visit happened with great planning and she also visited with former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert of Israel. She passed on to Assad word from Mr. Olmert that Israel sought peace with Syria.

Tulsi Gabbard's trip to Syria was without the knowledge of even a single other Democrat. Tulsi Gabbard was a rather low-on the totem pole unknown Congresswoman from Hawaii and at the time of her unannounced visit with Assad, Syria was at war and Assad was dropping barrel bombs on his people, children included. Yet, Tulsi Gabbard sided with Assad and characterized US-backed rebels as ‘terrorists’. She met with with a dictator whom the US government has dubbed a war criminal for his use of chemical weapons against civilians, and took Assad's side in it all. Gabbard’s trip raised alarms over a potential violation of the Logan Act, a federal statute barring unauthorized individuals from conferring with a foreign government involved in a dispute with the US. The US currently has no diplomatic relations with Syria.

There can be no comparisons drawn between Nancy Pelosi's diplomatic, planned and announced visit in 2009 with Tulsi Gabbard's unannounced, secretive meeting with Bashar al-Assad in 2017.

What is wrong about a U.S. presidential candidate having "admirers in the Kremlin" ? I will tell you exactly what is wrong with that. Russia is an enemy of democracy for one thing. Russia attacked our country, literally attacked our democracy by interfering with our election. Do you think it's fine and dandy that the same enemy has taken a liking for Tulsi Gabbard over any of the other candidates? It's not.

The allegation that Gabbard may be benefiting from Russian support is disturbing for many reasons. Democracy demands inclusion and debate of all ideas, whether or not they fall within the mainstream of a political part, and this includes Tulsi Gabbard as well. These messages must be free from foreign amplification and manipulation. Therein lies my chief concern: that Moscow is using its skillful propaganda machine to prop up Gabbard and use her as a tool to de-legitimize our democratic process again.

Russian ideology seeks to harm the United States, and they will support anyone who can help them achieve that goal. This is not about pushing ideas that are pro-Russia, that is too small for them. They want to see a retreat of American influence around the world. What better way to accomplish that than to attack our democracy by casting doubt on the legitimacy of our elections? Russia's success in attacking our democracy is not tied to their ability to recruit Gabbard (or anyone else) to parrot Russian talking points. Their success comes with their ability to influence and manipulate, through amplification, certain messages and candidates that create division.

 

Think trump will have a shot in 2020 if we enter a recession?

 

Balls in their back pocket?

They have had our balls in their back pocket thanks to both parties giving away the store on behalf of our elites.

Trump talked about these bad trade deals for decades while his haters were too stupid to see just how crazy these deals were.

These deals disemboweled Americans and created horrendous income disparity and tremendous problems .Only stupid people cannot see the obvious damage.

These deals only benefitted the top 10 percent. And only ttrump gave a damn .

Anyone who stands up for average Americans will be hated by the top 10 percent. If the 90 percent hate trump because he wants trade deals that benefit that 90 percent this is where the stupidity reveals itself .

But unless the dems become the party of common people again there is no hope for the 90 percent. For anything trump might do will be reversed once he leaves office so average Americans will be screwed over by both treasonous parties.

 

Democrats sure do push for one, don't they?

 

Noticed you didn’t answer the question?
Republicans are the only ones I have seen pushing for one; trade wars with no strategy to handle them, unfunded tax breaks, deregulating entities designed to prevent poor monetary policy, demanding QE...

 

You are younger than I, that's for sure and I still recall friends of mine that were engineers working for Pratt & Whitney and other large corporations who were sent overseas to China for six months to teach the Chinese the methods used for production of various things from aircraft parts to electronics. These corporations were paid very well, as were those technicians and engineers to virtually sell our trade secrets and proprietary information, China didn't steal it all as we're being led to believe. Who do you imagine owns 2 trillion dollars of our U.S. National debt? If you guessed China, you would be correct.

Trump can't bully China like he has done in his former life when he was putting up buildings in Queens and could bully the cement company or screwing the workers out of their pay. China is miles ahead of Trump when it comes to trade. President Xi has been training and learning how to run China since he was a toddler, he knows exactly what it takes to run a country of 1.5 billion people. Compared to China, Trump's experience as a two-bit operation that built golf courses, ran fake colleges, sold steaks by mail and built condos for the very richest of Americans, can't hold a candle to the likes of a dictator like Xi Jinping. China sees Trump and Pompeo as 'gangsters' and even said it using that exact word- 'gangster'. And, China is right again.