NATO may die if trump is re-elected.....

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  1. excalibur26

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    It is dying because many of our 'allies' are not paying their fair share, which is a mere 2% of GDP per NATO recommendations. Canada is among the worst offender, but Germany has long been an offender as well.
     
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    I don't accept that.

    If that were the reason for NATO dying it would have died decades ago.
     
  3. God & Country

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    My name is a misnomer,why??? The country, USA, it's that country east of California. On the matter of Russia's grip on Western Europe, here, https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-019-0227-8
     
  4. ArmySoldier

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    I find it odd that you only quoted one part of a post.

    Hillary bots are losing work these days
     
  5. Hoosier8

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    So Trump got a 130 million pledge and 400 million later with no increase out of our pockets.
     
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    This post is also completely false (and has been cited on this thread).

    The NATO mission was to deter the Soviet Union, which according to Obama- collapsed.

    Are you calling the Democrat liberals liars?
     
  7. Dayton3

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    Canada has no real excuse. The United Kingdom, West Germany (when it existed) Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, and Norway always had historically during the Cold War a huge justification for not spending their fair share.

    Their position was that in the event of a major World War Three level conflict with the Soviet Union, nuclear or nonnuclear that the battlefields would be on their territory. Thus they would "supply the sites" for the battle and that would mean a far more significant contribution to the NATO war effort than any level of spending on defense.
     
  8. WillReadmore

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    Referring to Trump's blunder with fake news?

    Cool combination of American slang and foreign language comment! Not sure what that combination means.
     
  9. EyesWideOpen

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    That's funny. So NATO is going to die because Trump is demanding NATO members pay their fair share of funding into it.
     
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    No, the dems swooned when Hilary hit the "RESET" (overcharge) button, with Russia, while she was SECSTATE.
     
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  11. Hoosier8

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    Yes, but Orange Man Bad so the dems cannot be for anything they were for before.
     
  12. WillReadmore

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    Russia?

    USA, but without California, Washington, Oregon, Alaska, Hawaii?
     
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    Orange Man has called for and end and for a strengthening of NATO.

    Then, he went over there and made a fool of himself, getting schooled by France and laughed at by Canada and UK.

    I really dont know why Republicans defend this total failure. It's no wonder they didn't even try to defend him in the impeachment inquiry today.

    They would be better off with Pence - not that I approve of anything he has EVER said.
     
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    Why do you call it that?
     
  15. Hoosier8

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    He got what he went for and saved taxpayer dollars. No wonder you are triggered.
     
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    You don't even know what he wanted. How could you? First he wants to kill NATO. Then he wants more contributions - from others!

    Orange man just isn't cut out to work with others. NATO countries can't help but laugh when he shows up.

    Then, he makes 5 specific false claims that others have had to correct for him.

    America deserves a strong leader that others look up to - not a clown that even our allys laugh at.

    Pence would be better.

    Think about it. In no way would impeachment cause there to be a Democratic president. So, that claim has been total BS from the start.
     
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    Says Putin
     
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    How did he save taxpayers a dime?
     
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    Winning ain’t your thing is it?
     
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    You should have read my links. Germany has options. And my quip about history is very relevant.
     
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    No increase in using your money for NATO.
     
  22. WillReadmore

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    Winning ... what?

    Trump doesn't have a consistent direction on NATO, Russia, Ukraine, Europe or even Canada.

    Until he forms some sort of consistent direction, whether he "won" anything is a pointless conjecture.
     
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    I don't see any reason to believe that is an outcome of his forray into NATO issues.
     
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    Of course he does. Only the sufferers are unaware.
     
  25. Hoosier8

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    Well of course not. You are unaware of many things.
     

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