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  1. clarkeT

    clarkeT Well-Known Member

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    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is something deeply wrong with the members of the GOP. They are deeply afraid of Trump. MY god, they might get tweeted! They might lose their jobs! They weren't contributing anything anyway and have long forgotten their oath of office. They are complete subjects of Trump. I cannot imagine what could possibly posses anyone to forget their soul and honor in that manner except they lack character. People of low character are easily frightened and manipulated.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If their fear of losing their jobs is keeping them loyal to Trump, then they are effectually being loyal to their constituents who support Trump.

    That, by the way, is precisely how its supposed to work :)
     
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    clarkeT Well-Known Member

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    Really dude. You have to ask?
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. Will you not answer?
     
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    Complete and utter CRAP!

    Everyone swears an Oath to UPHOLD the Constitution first and foremost as their INDIVIDUAL DUTY!

    Just because your BLOTUS is using the Constitution to wipe his YUUUGE orange ass does not mean that everyone must also involved in his criminal activities by covering them up for him.
     
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    clarkeT Well-Known Member

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    Most of the Trump GOP faithful have NO respect for the Constitution. I'd go so far as to say they've never read it in part or in whole. Their actions and words clearly show this. It should be a requirement for candidates running for federal office to read and show that they understand the Constitution in its entirety.
     
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    Cite the Constitutional violations you're referring to.

    (Preferably ones that aren't just heresay, speculation and flagrantly biased interpretation...)
     
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    I think the basic one is that he asked Selensky to look into Burisma (fact) in order to help his 2020 election (opinion.) The impeachmentistas seem incapable of admitting that there is not a whit of evidence that the request had anything to do with his 2020 re-election. It did have something to do with investigating corruption. There is no doubt about that but that isn't a crime or even an offense. It is a request to help with an investigation.
     
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    *crickets*
     
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    And such a requirement would be Unconstitutional, of course. Have you read and understood the Constitution.
     
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    There are people, of course who would, and do believe that the narcissist in chief POTUS meant the U.S. himself personally when asking the Ukraine's president's help in digging up dirt on investigating DND server, Crowdstrike, Biden & son. For them I have some ocean front property in Arizona I think you'd be interested in buying.
     
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    Their first duty is to protect and defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
     
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    What constitutional violation(s) are you referring to? Is it the infringements on our rights to bear arms, due process, search and seizure, 'hate speech' laws...? Or is it something someone said a friend told them Trump might've been intending to do?
     
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    There is something deeply wrong With Democrats who clearly believe that everyone else must see the same mirage they do.
     
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    Sorry, that's what ALL the facts point to
     
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    IN this case that would be the democrat controlled house.
     
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    Really? And yet the Democratic House is doing exactly what is required in their oath of office. They are following the Constitution exactly as it prescribes their duty. They have followed the impeachment process as written by Republicans for testimony in closed door meetings and gathering of evidence. They have made it abundantly clear, this is an impeachment of a president guilty of bribery and other high crimes and misdemeanors.

    Republicans have used lies, diversion, misdirection, personal attack, and debunked conspiracies to derail the Constitutional process of impeachment. The president is guilty of contempt of Congress (ignoring subpoenas), witness intimidation (bring forth the whistleblower), obstruction of justice, and abuse of power. The Republican have clearly no loyalty to the Constitution of the United States of America. Their loyalty is to Trump and his supplicants.

    I don't know which is more troubling, Trump and Giuliani and their mob, or their followers that have sold the Constitution and our nation to protect a false orange god.
     
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    Laughable sorry the rest of us aren't required to play in your orange man Bad sand box. That demented bit of bs is all yours.
     
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    "bs?" Is that all you have? No refutation of my presentation? No refutation of the facts presented? Just "bs?" Have you any idea how lame and juvenal stuff like this sounds?
     
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    Dude it's the same lame crap that myself and others have endlessly refuted dozens of times. Come up with something that hasn't already been done to death and I'll cheerfully but I'm not going to endlessly rehash the same tired bs ad infinitum just to suit you.
     
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    Actually it goes deeper than that

    Don’t forget that Donnie was Epstein buddy bud for years and Epstein was gathering blackmail material on everyone
     
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    Horse **** you have your presidents confused.
     
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    Whose friend? Plane logs show that Bill Clinton had flown to Epstein's private sex island over 20 times. How many times did Trump fly there? NONE!!!!!!!!

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