Joe Biden says he will refuse to testify in Senate impeachment trial if called

The question was not in relation to a subpoena. The question he was asked was "If there's a Senate impeachment trial, they might want to call you as a witness is that something where you would appear voluntarily?"


It should be noted that a subpoena is when you are legally mandated to testify

 

You just got 100% destroyed in a debate and this is how you run. Here it is again, so everyone else can see how deep you just got pounded into the sand with your empty rhetoric.

Destroying our Institutions: We have a runaway Intelligence community that is not answering the the elected government. They have been proven to be internally colluding, breaking privacy laws, and trying to set policy which is not their pervue. The same goes for the State Department and the IRS. It is time to tear some of these institutions (THE SWAMP) apart and root out the corruption of the Lois Lerner, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, James Clapper, and John Brennan types. These people were never supposed to be so powerful and not answer to "We the People".

Bankrupting the Nation: You actually have a point here, but for you to try and put the blame solely Trump is TDS. Since HW Bush the U.S. Government has spent like morons. The U.S. House of Representatives shares the blame with all the President's. The only man to really step up was Newt Gingrich and Leftists like you vilified the man. Trump is failing on spending and Pelosi et al share that blame.

Lying to the American People Daily: Welcome to U.S. Politics. I am glad you could join us. Obama lied huge and often. (Keep your doctor, keep your plan, Flexible with Russia, You didn't build that, etc..). Bush did it. Clinton did it. HW Bush did it... etc... etc.. etc... grow up.

Open Fraud and Corruption: Yeah... give us some proof, because to date, there isn't anything. Fraud and corruption is bugging a political rival. Fraud and corruption is unmaksing hundreds of political opponents. Fraud and corruption is using the IRS to stop rival political groups from being able to participate in the 2012 elections. Fraud and corruption is going after James Rosen and the Associated Press with the DoJ and Intelligence Community. Fraud and corruption is supplying Mexican Drug Cartels with weapons that were then used to murder over 400 Mexican citizens and 2 U.S. Federal LEO's. Fraud and corruption is passing Obamacare with dirty deals to gain votes. I could go on and on, but the Obama Fraud and Corruption was so deep and pervasive that I could be typing for a very long time.

We get it... ORANGE MAN BAD!!!!! ORANGE MAN REAL BAD!!!!! You made that abundantly clear. You have been sheltered with an MSM alternate reality. It's time for you to shake off the propaganda and join the rest of us in reality.

 

One posting on a political news forum doesn't know the facts, ok I will educate one free of charge this time.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...-details-his-drug-and-alcohol-abuse?_amp=true


Cocaine-laced cigarettes, crack, and vodka binges: Hunter Biden details his drug and alcohol abuse
by Caitlin Yilek
| July 02, 2019 01:41 PM

Joe Biden’s son Hunter has detailed the drug and alcohol addiction problems that played a role in the end of his marriage, his discharge from the Navy Reserve, and his absence from the 2020 campaign trail.

Divorced in 2017 after a 23-year marriage, Hunter Biden, 49, is the father of Naomi, 25, Finnegan, 19, and Maisy, 18. He recently married Melissa Cohen, 32, a South African divorcee, in secret just 10 days after he'd met her, marking the occasion with a "shalom" tattoo in Hebrew on the inside of his left bicep, to match one she has in the same spot.

Shortly afterwards, it emerged that he faced a paternity suit from a 28-year-old Arkansas woman. He denies ever having met her.

Speaking about his struggles in interviews with the New Yorker, the son of the former vice president said he began drinking socially and occasionally used cocaine at Georgetown University in the early 1990s.

He was once sold crack when trying to buy cocaine but didn’t have a pipe to smoke it from.

“I didn’t have a stem,” Biden said. “I didn’t have a pipe.” He used a cigarette, but said “it didn’t have much of an effect.”

In 2001, Biden commuted between Washington and his home in Wilmington, Delaware, for work. He would rent a room at the Army and Navy Club if he missed the last train because he was drinking.

“When I found myself making the decision to have another drink or get on a train, I knew I had a problem,” he said.

In 2003, his wife, Kathleen, whom he had married in 1993, told him he needed to get sober, asking him to stay drink and drug free for a month. “And I wouldn’t drink for thirty days, but, on day thirty-one, I’d be right back to it,” he said. Kathleen filed for divorce in December 2016.

Biden looked up rehab centers during a business trip in September 2003 and admitted himself to Crossroads Centre Antigua for a month. The day after he returned home, his brother Beau went with him to his first Alcoholics Anonymous meeting in Washington.

By his account, he was sober for seven years before drinking three bloody marys on a flight home from a business trip in Madrid in November 2010. His drinking continued until he returned to Crossroads Centre several months later.

 

And the -defense- is given significant leeway with witnesses that may have exculpatory or mitigating circumstance to testify to.

 

what possible answers could creepy give that wouldn't land him in jail. I would plead the 5th if I was him. He spend his entire career using influence to enrich his family.

 

In a letter to Representative Darrell Issa, the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, the president’s top lawyer said that as a member of the executive branch the political director, David Simas, had immunity from being compelled to testify before Congress.

But it was OK for the Obama administration?

 

Campaign finance laws - soliciting aid from a foreigner. And abuse of office, which may or may not be illegal, but we sure don't want presidents asking foreign governments to help them with their political campaigns.

 

Cite the treaty, quote the text.

Cite the treaty, quote the text.

I'll wait.

 

Read what I wrote.

 

LMFAO

Please take that and write that up into some Articles so I can laugh myself into a migraine.

 

How many time must I repeat this?

Testimony from the Biden's, Chris Heinz and Devon Archer as well as depositions by Zelensky and Shokin will be key to determining whether Trump was legitimately going after corruption or seeking to damage a political rival. Roberts will allow that.

 

No, it was not ok.
I disagreed with much of what Obama did — trump was supposed to end that level of politics, not amplify it

 

Nice spin.

 

And if it is determined that trump was not trying to find corruption but instead was trying to dig up damaging information or have them say an investigation was underway to damage his election chances, would you be for removing him from office?

 

Happy to - if you are prepared to commit to citing the text for your assertion that the doj doesn't need to start the investigation, and the mechanism whereby Trump's phone call did amount to a request under the treaty.

I'm ready to back up my statements. Are you? I'll even go first if you promise to follow ...

I see you got my post deleted because I had pointed out that it was clear you had not read the treaty. Kind of snowflake of you, but ok.

You should be aware, however, that it is against forum rules to alter someone's quote. So if you quote me again, don't selectively drop parts of what I've written. Don't alter my quotes at all.

 

Yeah like a Russian collusion investigation.

 

I have no idea what you are referring to, I have never advocated for any of those programs.

Such a poor debate strategy.

 

Funny, how I don't see your citation of the treaty and quotes from same.

 

I know. Let's try logic.

If there's no mechanism to start an investigation, and it only includes open investigations, how is the treaty still in place since it was signed in the 90's?

Are you suggesting that the treaty is there to keep some investigations from the 90's going?

That's hilarious.

 

I got destroyed in a debate by you parroting TDS and the bold.
Really...

Ok, I expect a higher level of discourse and allowing myself to get tangled into the debate tactics of some of you has not been productive. So it has ended.

 

What about it?

 

No, those are the programs Democrats want.

Now explain how Trump is actually hurting us when he's created more income for the US than ever before?

As usual, your debate strategy of blurting out emotional fears with no basis in reality is a poor debate strategy.

 

I said I'm ready to cite the parts of the treaty that back up my assertions. Are you?

And don't edit my quotes again. That's a breach of PF rules.

 

Here's your "higher level of discourse" based on complete absurdities and a rejection of reality.

 

I look at it this way. The man isn't protected by executive privilege, if he refuses, he's in contempt of the Senate, and he is charged and goes to jail. That sounds fine with me.