Republicans only witness contradicts himself.

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Us would be the US and prosecutors to check into corrupt interference in the 2016 election on the part of various agents in the Ukraine.
     
  2. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Uh ... sorry, that's a little too crude for me.
     
  3. ImNotOliver

    ImNotOliver Well-Known Member

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    Are you repeating the debunked Russian created propaganda? How rascally.
     
  4. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    No evidence of that either.
     
  5. opion8d

    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    'Russia, if you can find those 33,000 missing emails you will be greatly rewarded by the media.'
    'I think China should investigate Biden too'
     
  6. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    You do realize that at the time he said that either Russia already had them making Comey a liar, or Russia was never going to get them. It was a joke as everyone except Democrats apparently knew, which is why everyone there laughed their asses off.
     
  7. Lee_Wang_Tran

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    Trump's case against impeachment is so strong, he doesn't even need witnesses. Democrats can't even racket up 1% likelihood on impeachment. What is there to fight against? Schiffs shifty shiff show?
     
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    Okay, he said that, and so?

    If China and Russia wants to help fight corruption, great!
     
  9. Cal-Pak

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    There's a difference between asking to 'investigate corruption", and what appears to be an impeachable offence.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/20/other-knife-gordon-sondland-stuck-trumps-back/

    Ukraine could have started an investigation into Biden without telling anyone.
    But then Trump would not have been able to say at every rally that "Biden is under investigation", had the investigation been kept quite.
    It was not about corruption. It was about politically damaging a political opponent.
     
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    Oh, and I would like to know how Trump defenders out there would respond to,
    A President Joe Biden asking Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to start an investigation
    into the 2024 Republican Presidential Nominee(whoever it may be).
    To fight corruption, of course.
     
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    and Giuliani just went to Ukraine again, crazy
     
  12. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    None of which ever actually happened.
     
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    The founders and framers fear and concern was infinitely greater of a congress overthrowing a president through the impeachment clause.
     
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    Is there some point here?????
     
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    And Sondland didn’t contradict himself?
     
  16. EyesWideOpen

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    I'm sure that was Swallwell's opinion, but opinion is not evidence. Or possibly he was just passing gas again, and the Democrats thought it sounded like evidence.
     
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    I see.

    Trump denies the accusation that he blackmailed Ukraine. He's called a liar by people claiming he secretly blackmailed Zelensky.

    Zelensky denies he was blackmailed, coerced, or pressured to investigate Biden, or publicly announce such. He's called a liar by people claiming that a secret investigation took place.

    The belief that these men are liars, and the assumptions that secret blackmail and coercion took place, is called speculation and manufactured conspiracy theories. None of which are admissible as evidence.
     
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    Don't be ridiculous. At the time Trump made that obvious joke, the FBI had already been in possession of Hilary's email domain server and pertinent devices - for months. It was physically impossible to recover the deleted emails, unless you are claiming the Russians were going to break into the FBI evidence room to get those deleted emails.
     
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    Joke? I guess I can buy that because Trumps whole term has been a joke. After Trump made that remark, Russians flooded the media with hacked emails. FACT.
     
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    Whose emails, Hilary's?

    A lot of people still believe that many "hostile actors" as Comey referred to them, did in fact hack into that mom & pop server that Hilary used to send and receive classified material.
     
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    Of course, you are free to believe anything you wish and "a lot of people" believe things. Who's ends would best be served by release of Hillary's emails?
     
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    On national television networks though to my knowledge he’s only taken action on two of his three requests.
     
  23. EyesWideOpen

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    The American people for one, and probably the Bernie Sanders campaign.
     
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    They would go crazy, and demand Biden, and eveyone who voted for him be hung for treason.
     
  25. opion8d

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    That's it?
     

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