Why Are You Against Same Sex Marriage?

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by learis, Oct 13, 2015.

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Why Are You Against SSM

  1. Your Religion Says It's Wrong

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    19.2%
  2. Same Sex Couples Are Incapable of Genuinely Loving Each Other

    2 vote(s)
    7.7%
  3. Allowing SSM Will Lead to Allowing Beastiality, Polygamy, Incest, etc.

    2 vote(s)
    7.7%
  4. Other

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    65.4%
  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I'll check it out I liked some of his work
     
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  2. Polydectes

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    Who are you talking to?
     
  3. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here we come where the Appeals Court ruled against homosexuals.

    5 Loyal Democrats voted for the homosexuals.
    4 Loyal Republicans voted to stop them.

     
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  4. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Who is "WE?"
     
  5. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You need to first understand the difference between a "contract" and a "covenant". A contract as I said, is designed to be broken. Proof? There are remedies such as no-fault divorce, alimony, child support etc. It is performed and enforced by the State, The State sets the guidliines. Of course a marriage contract Could and often is honored by the parties of good faith. As you said, the State now allows same sex couples that want to "play house" and assume roles formerly described by "marriage" tocome under it's auspice. Often the marriage contract will take on the fascade as something being designed by God....but it doesn't have to.
    The Covenant Marriage to the contrary, is an agreement between one man, one woman arranged by the individuals under the auspice of God whose agent is the Church. It is in agreement with the Church and overseen by the Church adhering to the tenets of the Church. It is an agreement with God and is honor bound. The only remedy for dissolution would be to submit to counciling, for two years (in my state) then the Church would decide if the dissolution was within the teachings of Scripture.
    So the Covenant marriage is legal accepted and binding in many States. It is between one man and one women. The State has a means in which same sex couples can play house and even pretend to be Mom And Dad to children from heterosexual unions. IMHO it is not marriage as designed and an attack on the family......but there is a remedy for those that desire the true definition of what marriage is to be.
     
  6. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe it was Rahl. Do you look to the quote to whom the response was?
    We is those citizens living in States where the "Covenant Marriage" is legal and binding. Does that make you sore that there is an alternative for those that believe marriage should be held between one "husband" and one "wife"??
     
  7. rahl

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    Same sex couples can marry. That will not change. You’ll get used to it.
     
  8. rahl

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    There are numerous churches that marry same sex couples. Lol
     
  9. rahl

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    There is no alternative. Marriage means the same in every single state, including yours. And that includes same sex couples.
     
  10. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those are Apostate Churches and may not even claim to be Christian. They do not adhere the Word of God. Just because you might live in a garage does not make you a car. Same goes with Christians and Church. As far as going to church you can find any one to satisfy your cravings. Following Jesus and His word is another thing. Show me in the Bible anywhere you find marriage other than a man and a women. Sure, some men in the Bible had multiple wives, but they all suffered for it.
     
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    So, the millions of people who have been married by Justices of the Peace and Ship's Captains .... do you consider them married or not?
     
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    In the eyes of the State they are married. In the eyes of the Church (the Body of Christ) same sex unions are not marriage. The State could legalize polygamy, incest and beastiality if there is consent of the governed.....I'll acknowledge that. Any of those you mentioned would be qualified to perform a Christian wedding between one man and one women of course!
     
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    Why do some people need to pull, "incest and beastiality," out of their ass whenever same sex marriage is discussed? You're welcome to spend the millions of dollars and man hours it took to get laws against same sex marriage revoked if you're really that into it.
     
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    You don’t get to define who a Christian is. I don’t need to show you anything in the Bible. The Bible is completely irrelevant to marriage.
     
  15. yabberefugee

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    What a vulgar thing to say. Sort of gives away your mindset. Understand this.....to many of us, your same sex relationships is just as vulgar as incest and beastiality, yet we don't advocate your right to not indulge. Nevertheless.....it's not marriage.
     
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    Christianity is defined in the Bible. Atheists know nothing about it.
     
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    I've been married to the same woman for 28 years, that makes me an expert in marriage and I say it is. And the law of the land says it is. So your opinion doesn't mean crap. At all.
     
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    Loyal Republicans voted to stop them doing what?
     
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    The campaign for same-sex marriage wasn't about redefining the Covenant Marriage.
     
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    Well they're obviously married under the law.
     
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    How would Justices of the Peace and Ship Captains necessarily be qualified to perform a Christian wedding?
     
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    Why would it make me "sore?" Are you under the impression that I don't believe in Covenant Marriage?
     
  23. yabberefugee

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    So why get defensive? Why do you have to let everyone know you are married to a women? What's the big deal?? You could just as well (and maybe you have) had a same sex union and call it marriage. It's all the same to you anyway. You say you are an "expert" in marriage and you include that definition to be "same sex unions".As far as your definition goes, I could give a crap. Perhaps your "marriage" is open and you swing both ways. Just be honest about it.
     
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    Let me make this easy for you. Do you believe Justices of the Peace and Ship Captains can possibly be Believers in the Lord Jesus Christ and His sacrifice for our sins? I know you have an avatar that depicts Christ on the cross, but so does Madonna. What other qualifications do you feel a Christian has to have to perform a wedding? I know the State requires a certification but they have it. Must one be sprinkled with Holy water and say a bunch of Hail Mary's?? Just what hoops does a Christian have to jump through in order to be perform a wedding in the eyes of God and the State?
     
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    If they are one man and one women they are also married under the eyes of God. That's what really matters.
     

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