Has anyone turned against Trump yet?

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  1. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How's it going? Has the Schiff Show changed your mind? Nadler had an impact?

    It's not as hard to find voters who have changed their minds about Trump as it is to find voters who even claim to have been tricked, by the Russians, out of voting for Hillary in 2016.
    That's only because it's relatively easy to find people who have changed their minds in favor of Trump due to movements like #walkaway and #blexit.
     
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    I am still a deplorable. I think what is happening is that the demonrats and the media have lost the attention of the people of this country.
     
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    And they have zero credibility anymore. Nobody cares what crap the keep regurgitating.
     
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    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    American voters have woken up to the fact there is an impeachment going on. Polling indicates upward movement in voters favoring impeachment and removal form office (51%). Trump's support in Minnesota, Iowa, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania are under water by double digits. Getting impeached and tried in the Senate are not positive events for Trump.
     
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    LOL! Support for Trump has increased especially among minorities. This tidbit has dems crapping in their pants!
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I absolutely love your posts, but I can't help but feel that you may be teasing me. Your certainty, your absolute unwavering certainty, fills me with the hope that I might once again lavish in the sort of spectacle of shock and awe that filled the aftermath of the 2016 election. In all sincerity, those reactions, those stunned reactions, were some of the most entertaining things that I have ever witnessed. Your posts, opinion8ed, more than any others, tempt me to even hope that I could see that again.
     
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    So biden got it going on? lol
     
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    Hillary is going to be president! Trump won't last six months as president! Trump/Russia will finish Trump! Obstruction of justice will for sure get Trump this time! Now it's Impeachment! Impeachment! Impeachment! And yet not only does the HOWLING Left keep failing to take out Trump but his polling numbers keep rising and he keeps gaining more Black support and more Independent voters.

    Personally I think that the Left's leadership is now trying to get Trump re-elected. There is no other possible explanation.
     
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    There is no other way for ME to understand this mess.
     
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    There is another explanation. They don't have any option other than to pursue impeachment. I've tried watching and reading some of the leftist propaganda outlets and they really are quite adamant that Trump is guilty of all sorts of bad things. Their audience loves hearing this stuff, so they keep pushing this narrative, and that means Pelosi would be drawn and quartered if she were to go back to SF with a mere censure.

    I'm guessing the media is in the same sorry situation of being backed into a corner of their own design. Their ratings are plummeting, but CNN can't become a normal news network any more than Fox can. CNN and their ilk have an audience that demands they keep pummeling Trump and republicans.

    The DNC is broke, CNN has one guy trapped in an airport watching it, Pelosi and Schiff can't drive home from the airport without driving past huge homeless encampments, and their front runner is challenging an 83 year old man to a push up contest, and talking about how kids like to rub his leg hairs.

    Trump getting re-elected isn't even on their radar of bad things that can happen to the democrats.
     
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    Mmm no.

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    Are these the same polls that said Hillary was gonna blow Trump out of the race?
     
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    I know that you are correct. Certainly this reeks of a 'tiger by the tail' scenario wherein they have gone too far and have committed too much to it to back off now. But I also think that there are some clever dicks in some leftist think tank somewhere that genuinely believe that this is a brilliant political strategy and thus are promoting it to the Party's more or less mindless leadership as such. Sort of along the logic of, "Look boss, if walking inside a mine field were really all that dangerous then there would be dead bodies as far as you can see. Trust me."
     
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    Biden is too old..

    Trump needs to go.

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    I clearly understood what dems and repubs and witnesses said Nixon did. I clearly understood what dems and repubs and witnesses said Clinton did. I still do not understand what the dems and their witnesses say Trump did.
     
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    But the polls, but the polls, but the polls. Your stupid polls didn't know that Comey announced that the FBI was re-opening their investigation about 10 days before the election. The polls weren't yet aware of the impact Putin would have on the election. And, on top of that the polls really weren't wrong in-as-much as Hillary got the majority of votes.
     
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    Oh yeah, Putin changed everything, even got Trump elected. Such a powerful man. Who would have ever thought a Russian could "impact" our elections. So I guess Trump should keep doing Putin's bidding so he can get re-elected. No other candidate has a chance unless Putin gives them his support. Maybe we should just stop going to the polls and casting a vote. Let Putin appoint our president.
     
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    The 2016 polls predicting a Hillary win were correct. Hillary won the popular vote as predicted. The EC votes were not predicted because that's an entirely different and much tougher polling. Feel free to laugh off polling data. It's good for you.
     
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    All the Dem Party generated nonsense aside, I keep waiting for Trump to do something to really tick me off. Still waiting.

    In all honesty, I dislike the man but I have to admit that -- especially compared to G.W. Bush and Barack Obama -- Trump has been great for the economy and is actually trying to be good at his job. I gotta give the man credit for that. Unless he finally screws up truly big time he's got my vote at the end of 2020.
     
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    The popular vote is meaningless as even the typical leftist SHOULD know -- what the hell are they teaching them in high school and college anyway; Marxism 101? -- because it has ALWAYS BEEN the electoral college that elected the President. Trump legally won despite ALL of the dirty tricks and cheating the Left desperately did back in 2016.
     
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    And to top it off, you think you're being cute.
     
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    The changers I know that have changed their minds about Trump- are going to vote for him this time.
    In addition to the economy, the democrats have convinced them.
     
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    Sometimes you have to be "cute" to show other's illogical thinking.
     
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    On this site, probably not. America as a whole, not really. What these impeachment hearings has done is harden everyone's view of Trump. Democrats for impeachment and removal has risen from 82% up to 87% since the hearings began on 13 Nov. Republicans against impeachment and removal has also risen over the same time from 80% to 88%. So you can see the hardening effect the impeachment hearings have had on both sides of the aisle.

    Independents, on 13 Nov you had 38% for impeachment and removal, 39% against. Today we find 44% for impeachment and removal, 45% against. So some independents have come off the fence, but there is still exactly that one point difference. No gain there for or against impeachment and removal.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...ment_and_removal_of_president_trump-6957.html

    This thing is a foregone conclusion and has been once the democrats took over the house and began going down the impeachment track. The Democratic House will pass the Articles of impeachment pretty much along party lines. The Senate will not convict or exonerate Trump also pretty much along party line. This has been set in stone ever since the Democrats regained the house.

    Since we already know the outcome like we were watching the rerun of last years super bowl for the fifth time, no need to get excited or upset. This whole thing has been a big never mind to me.
     
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    I was never so scared in my life when a Russian put a gun to my back and told me to vote for Trump.
     
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