Has anyone turned against Trump yet?

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  1. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    I know, and some friends said they were made to vote twice and three times. Putin knows his stuff.
     
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  2. God & Country

    God & Country Well-Known Member

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    hmmm, that's a little bit frightening. A huge charade to cover an even bigger charade with Trump dropping the conservative, MAGA mask? Yikes!!! but nah, that's crazy stuff, Twilight Zone stuff. Stop it.
     
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  3. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    You must have forgotten that the public isn't involved in the process. The trial takes place in the Senate and the senators are the ones who decide.
     
  4. Rush_is_Right

    Rush_is_Right Well-Known Member

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    You must have forgotten we vote for these people.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    I didn't forget that.
     
  6. Oh Yeah

    Oh Yeah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Am I confused or am I being duped? The reason I ask is because I keep hearing that President Trump is a threat to the Nation. I have a few questions you may clear up for me.
    1. Donald J. Trump is an imposter (Pelosi). Did he not recieve 63 million votes from the American people and obtain enough electoral votes to be declared the winner of the 2016 election?

    2. Donald J. Trump colluded with the Russians and stole the election. Seems I read the (Democrat National Commitee) and (Hilliary Clinton) hired Christopher Steel , a ex-british spy, to obtain dirt on candidate Trump using sources from Russia and the Ukraine. They used this info to obtain FISA warrants to investigate the Trump campaign and his aides. The DNC was bought by Hillary Clinton and the rules were rigged to deny Bernie Sanders a fair shot at obtaining the nomination. Sounds like election interference to me.

    3. Donald J. Trump is not qualified to be the Commander in Chief of the USA. Is this the same Donald J. Trump who has served so far and not gotten us in any wars? The same President that authorized the destruction of the ISIS Caliphate ? The same President that withdrew us from a deal that IRAN continued to subvert? The same President that has made efforts to bring rouge nations like North Korea to the bargaining table? The same President that has called on our NATO partners to start doing their part financially to keep NATO strong? The same President that has given more than lip service to support Israel? The same President who has put sanctions on Russia and Iran for bad behavior?

    4. If we don't stop Donald J. Trump for a second term he will destroy America? Is this the same Donald J. Trump that has used his office to bring jobs back from overseas to America and stop the bleeding of companies leaving America? Is this the same President that has used his office to bring the lowest unemployment rates to woman, Hispanic's, blacks and other groups to historical lows? Overseen the creation of more jobs in decades and at the same time higher wages and lower inflation? The stock market has made over 100 new highs since he was elected. Yesterdays report was 266,000 new jobs, wages up 3.1 % from a year ago, and unemployment rate at 3.5% . The lowest in 50 years.

    5. Donald J. Trump only cares about his own re-election for his own personal gain. Is this the same Donald J. Trump that doesn't take any money for doing his job? Every three months he donates his salaries to worthwhile charities. He has been a champion of fixing the Veterans hospitals and Veteran Affairs. He loves the military and all law enforcement and shows them respect that past administrations haven't.

    6. Donald J. Trump hates immigrants. The President has tried to get Congress to move on immigration reform, but, like past Congresses their is no will to make changes. The President is not against immigration but is against ILLEGAL immigration. Obama, by executive order, granted the dreamers extentions on their visa status in anticipation Congress would make it permanent as part of a comprehensive immigration policy. It has never happened and now it is a political football. A nation without borders is really not a Nation is it? What many don't understand is not that Trump hates immigrants or others, it is that he points out the hypocrsy of the policys of the liberals. Should Chicago be shamed for it's crime? Should Baltimore be shamed for it's filth? Should LA and SF be shamed for it's homeless? They may not like it but at least the spotlight has been shown on liberal mismanagement.

    7. Donald J. Trump must be impeached. The Ukraine, being notorius for corruption, had just elected a new President. It was well known in the administration that there were still corrupt politicians and oligarth's still around from the last administration. Burista gas Co. was a corrupt company and when a previous prosecutor tried to look into it a Vice - President (Joe Biden) from a past American administration threatened to hold up aid if the prosecutor wasn't fired. It just happened that the vice presidents son (Hunter Biden) was being paid about $80,000 a momth by Burista as a board member even though he had no knowledge or experience in the field. It was already known that Hillary Clinton funneled money through the Ukraine for political dirt on her opponent (Donald J. Trump). It only made sense that the Trump administration would want to make sure the new elected President was serious about fighting corruption. After it was established the aid was released to the Ukraine for military hardware to combat Russia. Unlike the military aid that was released by the Obama administration to keep the soldiers warm as Russia slaughtered their troops. Over three years of investigations into collusion of elections and the Democrats do not have ONE factual witness to any collusion or bribary.

    8. Donald J. Trump must be impeached because his positions are contrary to the Democrat game plan.

    a.) He is pro-life and not in favor of sucking little children out of mothers wombs so Plan Parenthood can sell baby parts.

    b.) He is against the Paris Global Warming Treaty and letting the earth be on course to end in 10 1/2 years. I wonder why the earth hasn't ended already from the past seers who also made dire predictions about the world coming to an end. Were they wrong and also used false data in their calculations? Could it be China and India are the real villains in air pollution? Let's not forget about those farting cows.

    c.) He is a Capitalist and stands against the progressive programs of Socialism. Him and his band of deplorables keep trying to muddy the waters by suggesting that we need to show how to pay for Healthcare for all, College for all, reparations for all who have felt offended in the last 300 years and all the other rights we are entitled too.

    d.) He want's to seal our borders and isolate us. We believe in open borders because that way we can continue to get our cheap drugs and dope. We can continue to have cheap labor to work in our fields and clean our toilets. We can continue to have a slave trade of young girls and children to work in our homes. We will have a supply of future Democrat voters because we will keep them beholden to us and keep them depended on our generosity.

    e) Trump dared to cancel Treaties from past Administrations. We will roll back all he has done. Yeah, sure we will get the short end of the stick and it will cost us billions more but we will be loved and respected again. No more laughing at us over cocktails.
     
  7. Just A Man

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    This nation will not get back to any normalcy until psychiatrists can convince the dems, the lefties, and some on this forum, that Trump actually won the election and is the constitutionally elected president of the United States.
     
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    It is kind of cute that the same people that say the Ruskies didn't change a vote parrot some of their propaganda.
     
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    You must have forgotten the public is always part of the process.
     
  10. Spim

    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    nobody projected the EC count prior to the election?

    you want to take a moment to reconsider that statement?
     
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was terrified, but then remembered that inhad voted early, and 3rd party, pretty good chance I won't make that mistake again
     
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  12. BuckyBadger

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    No. They are losing Democrats at an alarming rate though. It's one of the reasons Democrats refuse to go after illegals, they need those votes to replace what they are losing in other areas.
     
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    I voted for Trump because I hoped he would resist globalism. I'll be voting for him again because he's proven himself globalist's mortal enemy.
     
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    They changed Hillary's bank account, that we know. lol
     
  15. Seth Bullock

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    I actually think that what the Bidens did is by far more egregious than what Trump did.
     
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    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    By far. It's not even close. What Obama did while in office to enrich himself is even worse. He collected around $65 million on a QPQ deal.
     
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    I think there were assumptions there that just didn't pan out like losing key midwest states. That was a surprise. Will polls miss something in 2020? ???
     
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    totally NOT voting trump again after that DEVASTATING phone call with Ukraine. thank you for showing me the light!
     
  19. gringo

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    wow. Let me fill you in. despite facts you will not see something you do not want to see. Kinda like a woman that has a cheating husband and she does not believe it despite the evidence

    trump used the power and office of the president to incite a foreign country to announce an investigation against a political opponent to ensure he has ammunition for the upcoming election.
    he fired ambassadors that could have hindered his wishes
    He also conspired to withhold aid that was approved by lawmakers for the same foriegn country until it announced the investigation.
    He has refused to allow his administration to cooperate with the government to clear his name and actions.
    If trump was not guilty he would tell Pompeo and Mulvaney to testify and clear his actions.
    And the only reason the mueller report did not indict him is because of a prior memo that said a sitting president could not be indicted

    mueller himself said without the prior memo he would have indicted trump.

    and despite the evidence you will still say trump did nothing wrong

    do you really think 17 people would testify before the entire world and lie??
    These are NOT politicians.
    Only politicians have no shame and lie on the worlds stage
     
  20. bricklayer

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    NAILED IT !!!!!
     
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    The American public has awakened to the fact the idiotic actions of the desperate democrat party was eliminating the viewing of their favorite daytime television shows and they turned off their sets in droves. The TV media p[eople quickly learned that these hearing sere destroying their ability to keep their viewers resulting in lower advertising revenues so they wisely stopped shoving them down the publics throat.
    Although I appreciate your blasting us with "facts" from polls, I would be quick to remind you,
    HILLARY BY A LANDSLIDE
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    acaDemedia has devolved into a mass of Bagdad Bobs describing their victory as they lose.
     
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    Why must the defense of trump always start with

    “yeah but Hillary” ??

    psst. Hillary is gone. She has NO power.

    as you say. Trump is the president and he has the power. When he is out of office he goes to jail

    “yeah but Hillary “ is not in jail.

    Once trump is not in power the GOP will turn on him faster than a a speeding bullet
     
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    Because they were our choices. Many, many millions of the people who elected Trump president voted against Hillary.
     
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    I voted for Hillary in 2016 and judging from the lineup Dems are considering, I’ll probably end up voting for Trump next year.
    Impeachment has no impact on me, but democrat party sliding too far left is a major factor in my decision making.
    I’m no fan of Trump, but he appears to be a lesser evil. I even find myself defending him quite often even though I didn’t vote for the guy.
     
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