Turkey sending foreign ISIS fighters back to home countrys - including US

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  1. Turkic Brat

    Turkic Brat Well-Known Member

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    Trust me political secularists and political islam are an apple cleft in two.
    People are so tired with these two dipoles for years.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Turkey supported ISIS and encouraged them to enter Syria to fight the Kurds. I recall reading that Fidan, the head of Turkey's Intelligence (MIT), saying when ISIS was well established in Syria, that they should have a consulate in Istanbul since they have no place to go when they are there. Of course that was taken off the Turkish paper quickly. Also there were report of the wounded fighters being treated in hospitals in Turkey.

    Since Erdogan's ambition is to recreate the Ottoman Empire, and terrorism is a means of accomplishing that, then of course he wants the West to take back the ones from Europe. As for the ones from the Central Asian states they are a different story. They're being sent in with the thousands of migrants Erdogan's shipping to Greece.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, it's good to have an opinion on this from someone who actually comes from Turkey.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Christian theology believes that outside forces can influence one's mind and actions.

    Passions such as anger, hatred or jealousy arouses negative (demonic) influences towards those who the passions are directed against, and they will suffer attacks. (Which means never get mad at your teenagers, even if they're driving you crazy).

    Positive emotions such as compassion, tolerance and love in contrast has a calming affect on the hearts of others, and also protects people from attacks.

    Of course it depends on the extent and amount of love one has in their hearts towards others, as well as the amount of people praying. The more prayers towards others, and especially those that need it the most (like the terrorists), the more affective it will be - unless there's a Saint who is willing to martyr and sacrifice himself for their conversion.

    It was the martyrs that spread Christianity. It was never by the sword - which is an element of hatred.
     
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    I don't think it's bad, it's equal. Everyone should take their fair share of these scum. We had reports dating back two-three years ago that radical islam found hot beds in Chicago and Minneapolis. So it's not surprising that we had an ISIS fighter here. It's too bad we don't have a world jail to incarcerate criminals who shouldn't be incarcerated inside of the native country.

    That was probably the original intent of gitmo. We need a UN version that everyone can agree to.
     
  6. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Christianity doesn't completely reject "hatred", but it has a very different understanding of what "righteous hatred" is, and usually that is seen as a role to be relinquished to God. (i.e. hatred is not inherently immoral, on some philosophical level) So it is a bit nuanced and one does have to add qualifiers.

    Especially when one looks into the contexts in which Christianity developed versus the context in which Islam developed. Christianity came after numerous failed Jewish revolts, when it had become obvious that physical fighting was not going to accomplish the restoration of the nation of Israel, and that people just were going to have to find a way to live under Roman occupation. (i.e. It was God's will and they were just going to have to accept it)

    Anyway, many people may not know this but the area that is now Turkey used to be an early major bastion of Christianity before the muslims took over. Peter and Paul probably spent more time evangelizing in Asia Minor than they did in Greece and Rome.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Many times these are young fools who should be reformed and eventually released. Meanwhile, it's no big deal to me where they're imprisoned. They're not enough of a burden on a country as rich as ours to be worth any fuss.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean converted to some other religion besides Islam?
    Like Christianity, Buddhism, or (liberals hope) Atheism?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Turkey was a big player in the war - huge arms conduit - bought ISIS oil for years - Part of the alliance of nations to arm, supply and support the radical Islamist proxy army.

    2012 declassified Defense Intelligence agency (DIA) report


    http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-con...12-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version11.pdf

     

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