Christianity topics that should not be discussed in Political Threads.

Most Christians ignore parts of the bible, be hard to believe if one did not

 

That's likely true. But i meant putting frank on my ignore list was a win for me.

Most "Christians " have not read the bible.

There is a lot in it that is difficult to believe.
It demands that men ignore their own observations to trust God. And that is the whole point of the bible!!!

We're wrong, He's right. It's our responsibility to change what we think and do. Not for him to prove we need the change.

 

I agree most Christians have not read the bible, I was a Christian, it was reading the bible that raised more doubts, it's just not a book a God would write

reading the bible is like staying up late to prove Santa exists - you might not like the 'truth' you find

 

I rest my case. You have preconceived ideas about what God must be based on your preferences.

 

I do not think a God would be a Jealous vengeful God, your free to disagree

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+34:14&version=KJV

"
Exodus 34:14 King James Version (KJV)
14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:
"

 

Would you be jealous if your spouse loved other people and wanted to spend time with them instead of you?

 

you think God is like a jealous guy that would lock a women in the basement for eternity for not loving him or spending time with other people

God per the bible is not just jealous, he is so jealous, he goes by the name jealous

 

Since when has God locked anyone up

We have free will.

Jealous people are deeply hurt by their spouses wanting other people and not them.

God allows us to do whatever we want no matter how much it hurts Him.
It's a thing callef love.

 

do you believe in hell? the basement analogy was in reference to hell, I thought you would get it, guess not

the bible God is almost what I would imagine Trump as being if he was a God - lol

a jealous narcissistic God with a fragile ego that just wants everyone to worship him

 

Hell is just God letting people spend their time with what matters most to them... themselves.

 

sure it is, the jealous man says locking the girl up in a basement is for her own good too

 

That is an incorrect analogy, but you're only gonna see what you want to see.

 

seems to me it's you that's only gonna see what you want to see

 

One...I am not ignoring you. I am responding to you.

Two...and I really should have done this earlier, although I disagree with almost everything you write, I thank you for coming to the thread and speaking your mind. That thanks is sincere.

Three...you really should stop thinking about winning and losing in a discussion. In any case, if this were a debate with just you and me...you would be coming in third.

 

I just see as best i can what the bible says..

It's quite simple you think you know better than t hr e bible. I know that I don't.

 

The Bible may, in fact, be the inerrant word of a god.

The Bible may be just the ravings of a primitive, superstitious tribe of ancient Hebrews.

You guess it to be the former.

Some people guess it to be the latter.

I wonder which is correct.

 

That is nonsensical . ha ha


All that one can do is guess and speculate unless one is delusional

Incoherent cognition is always a factor in delusion And the well educated dont have complete immunity.

God needs to reveal himself to humanity so his existence could not be questioned except for the mentally retarded.

Then there wouldnt be any atheists but for the mentally retarded .

And theists would not be guessing while denying it was not a guess. We dont need theists having to lie, right?

 

I agree. While The Bible does depict homosexuality in a negative light, it does not necessarily qualify it, in and of itself, as a sin. IMO, The Bible equates homosexuality to sexual immorality, which makes it no better or worse than lustful thinking, porn and premarital sex. Which also are not technically defined as sin (though can still be sinful- for example, are you 'loving thy neighbor' watching some woman get railed on camera, who is obviously only doing it because she has no other marketable skills? Seems rather callous to me...). Likewise with gambling, intoxication and by some interpretations, joking and/or sarcastic speech. And good luck finding any sizeable group of Christians who do not engage an any of those...

Regarding abortion, The Bible says 'do not murder.' Murder is technically a legal term for unlawful killing. Abortion is not unlawful. But neither was killing Jews in Nazy Germany, which I think most of us can agree was still murder and still sinful. So the question becomes, what does 'murder' mean in the Biblical sense? I'll not presume to answer that for anyone but myself, but I believe The Bible is referring to uneccessary killing. Certainly some abortion is unecessary ('Adoption is such a hassle!'), and certainly some abortion is necessary ('Im too sick to survive giving birth'). Ultimately, whether its 'sin' is entirely subjective to the individual, whether they believe the abortion is necessary or not. Again, in my opinion.

And just because I know how some of you (tend not to) think- no, Im not advocating abortion be banned. I think abortion is almost always immoral, but I think it should remain entirely legal. I oppose theocracy.

 

Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

My comment on abortion is an observation to the Christians who have mentioned it. My comment is: In the Bible, Jesus never mentions a single word about abortion.

And the FACT is...in the Bible, Jesus never mentions a single word about abortion.

 

It's mentioned in the Didache, chapter 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didache

People who use the Bible as their weapon will say that historical documents don't count, but the Didache was an early catechism, and the disciples must have gotten that teaching from somewhere.

 

Okay, I'll take your word (or the scholars word) for that...

...but my comment holds. There is no records that Jesus ever said a word about abortion.

 

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

 

You...or anyone...can easily prove me wrong by citing any instance in the Bible or anywhere else where Jesus is saying a single word about abortion.

You cannot...because there is not a single word recorded of Jesus doing that.

 

So jesus would love the idea of 50 million potential Democrat voters dead since 1974?

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Btw jesus said love one another, not kill one another