Trump criticised for rush to defend Saudis after pilot kills three at US navy base

My search function does seem to work. I see Margot2 in alerts but not in many posts. None of those three sound familiar. So there may be some

I must not have paid much attention to people expressing the word hate about this POTUS.

 

Yeah, there are a lot of posters who I've never noticed, but I've interacted with three on this list.

 

So is slavery.

 

I can't remember who it was, but I interacted with one poster here a while back who was saying he hoped Trump died.

 

Everything I listed is factual so of course you call it BS. Now if this was the previous admin it would already be dismissed as nothing more than workplace violence. Trump was not the first person to claim Muslims cheered the towers coming down. Videos circulated all over the net before he said anything about them.

 

Yes there is a lack of BS, so what?

 

Oh what TDS you have. There isn't a single thing Trump could do that you wouldn't complain about. Much like the b1tch I once had as a girlfriend who always wanted to whine and cry about everything and just wanted to put me in a no win situation. I finally got her when in one situation I only had two options and she yelled and complained about the option I took. But I knew it would come up again so the next time, I took option #2 and she whined and yelled until I reminded her what she said the last time. It was one of the few times she was at a lost for words. Seems most of the Left and many Trump haters have the same estrogen powered emotional distress that causes them to criticize everything even though he's just following the same policies of his predecessors.

 

So it's okay to take away refugees's kids, right? Some guy murdered his family last century, that means it's okay for you to beat your wife?

 

Gee, I wonder why that "estrogen powered" girl left. (besides the fact that she probably never existed).

Indeed, he IS just following the policies of his predecessors, though he acts like no one else has EVER done them and that he is God Himself for coming up with the sunset laws in regard to regulations.

 

Oh yeah, you got that Obama list to show us

 

Where to start? Maybe the pages of a topic called “Liberals!” where they (Democrats) could not condemn the following, including one who helped draft the Rome treaty (ICC):

“If terrorists are so faceless as you say how is it we know and have known who they are? How is it they have told us and continue to tell us who they are – these people have faces and they are playing by the rules of warfare - attack, kill or terrorize the opposition.”

“terrorism doesnt go away it is a means of conducting war. There is no such thing as a war on terrorism - there can be a war on countries we dont agree with but war on a particular type of war action is silly.”

That one (2003) predates this one:

“Rape is not an enemy but a technique of warfare -- political intimidation through the selective breeding of unarmed non-combatants.” (Zbigview Brznutski, Obama supporter)
(Terrorized by 'War on Rape' - Washingtonpurplethrobbingpost) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/23/AR2007032301613.html

This one is special:

“The President’s strategy is absolutely clear about the threat we face. Our enemy is not ‘terrorism’ because terrorism is but a tactic. Our enemy is not ‘terror’ because terror is a state of mind and as Americans we refuse to live in fear. Nor do we describe our enemy as ‘jihadists’ or ‘Islamists’ because jihad is a holy struggle, a legitimate tenant of Islam, meaning to purify oneself or one’s community, and there is nothing holy or legitimate or Islamic about murdering innocent men, women and children.” (Remarks by Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism John Brennan at CSIS)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...ecurity-and-counterterrorism-john-brennan-csi

"The basic principle is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way [to react to a rape] without knowing what's going on, without having some real-time information about what's taking place." (Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta)

Sunday, 30 September, 2001, 16:54 GMT 17:54 UK:

"'We do not accept the presence in our country of a single soldier at war with Muslims or Arabs,' Prince Sultan said in comments published on Saudi Arabia's official Okaz newspaper on Sunday." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1571689.stm

"Saudi Arabia said what?
'You can’t kill an Arab or Moslem;'
No matter the murderous plot,
We respect them?" (Sun 30 Sep 2001 09:03:18 PM EDT)


Yeah, I don’t forget.

 

Everyone hates Trump, especially Trump himself. He has that particular type of Mental Illness which finds the fact people hate him to be particularly gratifying. Trump goes out of his way to be toxic to even those who want to be his close friends, as Jeff Sessions and many others can testify.

 

Any time you get the balls to support a "WAR ON TERROR," let me know.

 

Trump criticised for rush to defend Saudis after pilot kills three at US navy base

To put things in perspective Trump has been criticized for two scoops of ice cream and the size of salt and pepper shakers.

 

I watched an Iranian Pilot fail a test in Memphis, and I asked the instructor why he was so upset, instructor replied something like this, "I you fail the course, we won't kill you."

 

Criticizing Turmp for defending Saudis immediately after a terrorist attack by a Saudi national which killed 3 US Sailors is most definitely the same as criticizing Trump for his overcompensating on ice cream and salt and pepper shakers.

 

If we went to war every time a foreign national killed someone we would not have a United Nations (of tyrants too). Without any evidence to the contrary, such as the Taliban and Saddam's support for terrorism, which got those too wars, yes, defend them.

Relevant to the discussion, this guy wore a Good Bush, Bad Bush t-shirt to the Newspaper's message board meeting, not one Democrat condemned it in the topic, or elsewhere, where I asked the questions:
“ 2). Why not go on record as to whether you agree with your ‘liberal‘ comrade that Osama is ‘playing by the rules of warfare?’ What about Hamas and other terrorist groups?

This one, believe it or not is fairly straight forward... Terrorist groups fight with the weapons they have available... Hamas and other groups don't have airplanes, tanks and the like to fight the Israelis... So they use the only weapons avaiable to them.... The problem I have is the killing of innocent people... If they want to blow up the Israeli military.. GO FOR IT!!”

Show me an authorization for use of force by Saudi Arabia like this, and I'll be all for war:
July 1997, South Movement, "the path of Jihad and proper action": "Those who desire to face up to the Zionists conspiracies, intransigence, and aggressiveness must proceed towards the advance centers of capabilities in the greater Arab homeland and to the centers of the knowledge, honesty and sincerity with whole heartiness if the aim was to implement a serious plan to save others from their dilemma or to rely on those capable centers; well-known for their positions regarding the enemy, to gain precise concessions from it with justified maneuvers even if such centers including Baghdad not in agreement with those concerned, over the objectives and aims of the required maneuvers." (On the 29th anniversary of Iraq's national day (the 17th of July 1968 revolution). President Saddam Hussein made an important comprehensive and nation wide address) http://southmovement.alphalink.com.au/countries/Iraq/speech.htm

 

Trump criticized. After 1639 days of constant MSM barrage that is quite a shock.

 

...and that's a false choice.

 

Well, that's Trump's nature. People often love him or hate him, because he behaves in such silly and extreme ways. Mainly, however, people either accept or reject his constant stream of lies, and those who don't will probably feel some kind of disdain toward a Commander in Chief who spews lies on top of committing abuses of power to try and help himself stay in power, completely disregarding the Constitution he swore an oath to uphold and bringing harm to the nation he swore to serve.

 

Be that as it may, Partizan1 seems to be unaware of the great hatred of Trump on the left.

 

“'They said that we had to choose between cutting the deficit and keeping taxes low,' Bush boasted in 2006. 'Those are false choices.' Well, we know how this argument turned out. The decision to spend down an illusory surplus with unaffordable tax cuts was a real choice — with painful consequences that the country is still reaping.

And so, readers, you should indeed beware of false choices."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e-false-choice/2011/03/31/AFvoZRBC_story.html

“Howard Dean has said that Hamas’ soldiers—no one has ever called Hamas soldiers before. Howard Dean has said we don’t take sides in the Middle East. We took sides in 1948. Israel’s our ally. We always knew that. We can’t have a president who is conducting American foreign policy by press release clarification, and we’re certainly not going to beat George Bush that way.” (John Kerry Meet the Press (NBC News) - Sunday, January 11, 2004)

Ever see the Hamas fatwa immediately following 9/11 where they allied themselves with Al Quacka? I doubt it, it was scrubbed from the Internet the next day. I would post it, to go with Howard Dean, but I had a hard drive failure and lost it.

 

"Commander in Chief who spews lies" : He's a politician. If his lips are moving, he's lying. They all do and they do it all the time, irrespectful of which party they belong to.
"committing abuses of power to try and help himself stay in power" : Again, this is common to all of them, on both side and forever.

You seem to believe that you live in some sort of ideal world where peoples in power are there for the good of those bellow them. They're not! It's a dog eat dog world. It's cruel, unfair and sometime deadly but those are the card we're all dealt in this existential poker game. When a politician says he cares about you, it's a lie! When they say they'll defend you, they'll only do it if it profits them or if their own existence is in danger, and even then, guess who'll do the dying on the front line, NOT THEM!

Also, the Constitution while being great and inspirational, it is still only a piece of paper. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Part of it has been ignored, trampled on, by just about every presidents, from both party for all of the 20th and now 21st century. From shooting down WW1 veterans asking for better treatments after WW1, to Japanese-American internement, to LSD experiment on african-american, to the Bay of Pig and VietNam... etc... etc... Trump isn't unique. He's in fact quite middle of the road, hell even a dove, compared to his predecessors.

 

Dang the Obama agreement with Saudi Arabia.

 

Refugees can keep their "kids" in Mexico.

You and I both know those kids aren't theirs.