Jim Jordan calls this a pre-determined impeachment, tensions near boiling point

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  1. Giftedone

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    I have not ignored any evidence - because you have refused to provide any. False accusations/ Strawman fallacy - do not much of an argument make.
     
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    Trump in the second phone call to Zelensky said, in part:

    "I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike... I guess you have one of your wealthy people... The server, they say Ukraine has it. There are a lot of things that went on, the whole situation. I think you're surrounding yourself with some of the same people. I would like to have the Attorney General call you or your people and I would like you to get to the bottom of it."

    "Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me."

    "I will have Mr. Giuliani give you a call and I am also going to have Attorney General Barr call and we will get to the bottom of it. I'm sure you will figure it out. I heard the prosecutor was treated very badly and he was a very fair prosecutor so good luck with everything. Your economy is going to get better and better I predict. You have a lot of assets. It's a great country. I have many Ukrainian friends, their incredible people."

    "I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to call. Thank you. Whenever you would like to come to the White House, feel free to call. Give us a date and we'll work that out. I look forward to seeing you."​

    Reminds me of The Godfather...

     
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    Dagnabbit, I believe you have it!
     
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    There is everything to see here, the democrat (communist) party is showing they are corrupt to their very soul. all on display. I for one am pulling for a Senate trial I want to see Schiff, Pelosi, Bidens all under oath. Do they get tailored orange jump suits or just off the shelf variety I wonder.
     
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    Thanks - So what law was broken ? If Biden Son was involved in some dirty deeds in Ukraine - the President has the right to ask about it - part of his job in fact.

    If Biden Son has done nothing wrong - then he has nothing to worry about.
     
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    Wish I could share your confidence but didn't Pompeo lie about 'the' phone call and didn't Mulvaney admit to 'Quid pro quo'.or was that hearsay I saw.
     
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    Democrats are communists? :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    shave their heads then superglue trump blonde toupe's on their heads
     
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    Hahaha. Yes, because collectivism worked so great anywhere?? No. It only results in death a destruction. I think you are the one that needs to read up. Soviet Union, Mao's China. Ring a bell?
     
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    Also, if this were true Hitler would have installed an unfettered capitalist system... Your theory sounds nice for an undergrad socialist circle jerk, but has no basis in historical reality.

    I have forgotten more about this particular topic than you have learned.
     
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    §30121. Contributions and donations by foreign nationals

    Asking a foreign leader to publicly announce an investigation into a political rival for the Presidency violates the law. Trump showed his intent by focusing on Biden, never mentioning corruption,
     
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    No, because workers turn to socialist politics, especially in bad times, because they don't understand why socialism doesn't work. Capitalists, fearing socialists will get power and confiscate their assets, turn to an aggressive ideology that promises to stop socialism.
    Socialists who collectivized production. The Nazis did not.
     
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    Propaganda Alert!
     
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    Why would he have done that?
    You're blowing smoke.

    I taught history and economics for three decades. You're not fooling anyone.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:
    Are you a Mod? Who's going to stop me, your antifa friends?
     
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    I don't see how asking a nation to conduct an investigation on a suspected criminal action qualifies as a contribution/donation by foreign national.

    I don't see - from your previous post - where Trump asks that the investigation be announced publicly but regardless - don't see this as hitting the "High Crime/Misdemeanor" bar.
     
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    Duh... This is why the Nazis became the most popular party in Germany and FDR won in a landslide.
     
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    If the President was involved in dirty deals in the Ukraine, the House has the right to ask about it - part of their job in fact.

    If Dirty Donnie has done nothing wrong - the he has nothing to worry about.


    ( I like the way that works. Dirty Donnie under oath in front of the Senate. )
     
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    Taught at what level? I believe in education our first rule is not to use Wikipedia as a source...
     
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    Perhaps not Dirty Donnie but the Public should be worried about how the Dems have engaged in these witch hunts.
     
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    Quoted from the encyclopedia Britannica:

    "Fascism, political ideology and mass movement that dominated many parts of central, southern, and eastern Europe between 1919 and 1945 and that also had adherents in western Europe, the United States, South Africa, Japan, Latin America, and the Middle East. Europe’s first fascist leader, Benito Mussolini, took the name of his party from the Latin word fasces, which referred to a bundle of elm or birch rods (usually containing an ax) used as a symbol of penal authority in ancient Rome. Although fascist parties and movements differed significantly from one another, they had many characteristics in common, including extreme militaristic nationalism, contempt for electoral democracy and political and cultural liberalism, a belief in natural social hierarchy and the rule of elites, and the desire to create a Volksgemeinschaft (German: “people’s community”), in which individual interests would be subordinated to the good of the nation. At the end of World War II, the major European fascist parties were broken up, and in some countries (such as Italy and West Germany) they were officially banned. Beginning in the late 1940s, however, many fascist-oriented parties and movements were founded in Europe as well as in Latin America and South Africa. Although some European “neofascist” groups attracted large followings, especially in Italy and France, none were as influential as the major fascist parties of the interwar period."
     
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    As opposed to worrying about the actual witches ? e.g. Trump and his band of crooks, liars, thieves and traitors.
     

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