Have the Trump years been hard on you?

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  1. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have the Trump years been hard on you? Are you feeling left out of the economic boom? Are you still in recession? Well, I have good news for you! For a limited time (unless Trump is reelected) you too can live the American dream. All you have to do is finish high school, don't have children out of marriage and keep a job. That's it. That's all it takes. Now, you decide. You can be woke, or you can live the dream.

    -more jobs available then people to fill them - wages rising - women and minorities benefitting the most - over 150 stock market record highs - decide now while this offer lasts-
     
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    Dang, peace and prosperity is so passé for the new socialists.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Rebels without a cause
     
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    And the numbers of homeless across the country growing day by day!!
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Across the country"? not so much. In democrat controlled places, oh yeh!
     
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    Now do the national debt...
     
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    Poverty grew exponentially under Obama. Didn't the number of people on food stamps double under Obama?

    Trump is reversing that.
     
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    Actually he isn’t. The worst recession in 80 years has consequences. Public assistance rising is one of them. The trend was turned around h see obama and has continued on the same unchanging pace since 2010, like every other economic metric. So if you can find the magic time machine trump has, then and only then can you give him credit.
     
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    The number of people on food stamps grew under the recession and topped off in 2013 - then started falling and continued to fall till Obama left office. Trump is continuing that trend, he DID NOT reverse it. Why can't Trump fanboys take two seconds to look these numbers up before they resort to pulling stuff out of their ass ... it ain't hard.
     
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    Did just as well during the last 7 years Obama was in office as far as the stock market goes. My home value increased more each year between 2011 and 2016 than it has for the last couple of years.

    The GDP, which conservatives claimed was the benchmark for good Presidents, still hasn't climbed about 3% while Trump has been in office ... a number which conservatives claimed proved Obama was inept.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wouldn't be surprised if news came out tomorrow that the national debt was actually several times what we have been told. I'm really that cynical about the news, but I do believe the hate. I don't believe that anyone is faking their hatred for President Trump, and all of the right people hate him. As long as President Trump stands between me and those who would have their best intentions for me imposed upon me by force of law, I will stand with him. I would rather tolerate Trump's imperfections than have your perfections imposed upon me by force of law. Don't get me wrong. I do not doubt the benevolence of your intentions. It's just that I think that such a benevolence should be reserved to the parents of small children. With all due respect, many of us find it infantilizing and quite unwelcomed.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, no boom for you. I don't blame you for feeling the way you do. That can't be easy. I hope that you are able to take some consolation from the increased economic well being of so many women and minorities. I'm sorry that you're being left out so far. Hope's not lost though; Trump will probably be reelected. Hang in there Daniel.
     
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    Me asking you to expand upon the disaster known as the National Debt is treating you as if you are an infant?

    ...

    Surely you jest...

    I am sorry you find it unwelcome for someone to point out that you are selling future generations prosperity for 1.9% growth, manufacturing in recession and stagnant middle class wage growth. So sorry. Deeply apologize! As long as it benefits you!
     
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    *sigh* Reading comprehension. Try it sometime.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would we believe our own lying eyes when you're right here to tell us that it's really not as good as we think it is?
     
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    So you believe the national debt doesn’t exist or that it will not effect future generations.
    Not saying your eyes are bad — just your brain, and maybe your heart.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know what to believe. All of the news could be fake. I can't prove any of it, and no one's proved it to me so far.
    What I do tend to believe is the hate. I believe that the hate is real. I don't believe that anyone is faking their hatred for President Trump, and all of the right people hate him. That's all I get from the "news". I get most of my information from markets. For example: The "news" says that sea levels are rising whereas markets say that beachfront property is not declining in value. I believe the markets. I am far more likely to accept information that I have gleaned than information that has been reported to me.

    The national debt is a thing, but it's not a thing near the top of my priorities. It's no where near the top of my priorities. The national debt does serve an important function in that it is a good indicator of who's losing an argument. The national debt is among the last refuges left when others are doing well.
     
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    What did the markets say immediately before the depression or great recession?

    The national debt doesn’t matter? Wonderful.
    No wonder your country is ****ed.

    Do you think a family that is making 250k a year is doing well if they are living paycheck to paycheck due to poor financial decisions?
     
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    A family earning $250K a year and living paycheck to paycheck is not good with money. At some point, we need to let natural selection kick in.
     
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    Quit inviting people into country who have no useful job skills problem solved. It would also help if you quit enabling drug abuse.
     
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    When discussing with simpletons, sometimes it's best just to stoop to their level. And I'm too busy to write a ten paragraph response. Some people here actually do that. I don't know where they get the time. They must not have a full-time career and a family.
     
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    This will likely happen at some point in our future, I hope you are alive so your grandchildren or great grandchildren — should you be fortunate enough — can thank you.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Weather or not my great grandchildren will have to work depend on how well my grandchildren handle my estate, but I'm quite sure that my grandchildren will thank me at least once of month after I'm gone. Trusts go a long way.
     
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    The people you are sacrificing for your short term gain will likely be caring for you one day.
    I take solace in that.
     
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    Trusts aren't that bad, and they do not always "sacrifice" their recipients. Many people have trusts and are not "sacrificed" by them. I doubt that they'll hate me so much because I made them wealthy that they will refuse to take care of me when I need them to.
     

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